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AAsher Saintt On Making Alternative Music In Charlotte

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Your brain is making a decision about someone before they even say a word and it might be the wrong one. We start with a real, funny, and surprisingly thoughtful sit-down with Charlotte artist AAsher Saintt, digging into what makes him who he is beyond music: an introvert with a loud internal world, a love for walking, and a mission-driven approach to art. He breaks down his creative process in a way every independent musician will recognize, from catching melodies in the moment to building records later in the studio, plus how influences like Kendrick Lamar, Michael Jackson, and Nina Simone show up in his sound.

Then we switch gears into Bounce Breakdown mode with a fast-moving mix of culture and headlines: our Essence Fest media recap, what VIP access actually changes, and why lines and logistics can make or break the experience. We also talk through a tragic story involving Buddhist monks in Thailand, a “karma” burglary case that feels like a movie plot, and an 18-year-old football player’s death that leaves big questions about trust, phones, and who you should move with.

Finally, Lex takes the wheel for Triggered with a deep dive into the halo effect, pretty privilege, and how AI beauty filters can literally change how trustworthy people seem. We connect the psychology to real cases, internet behavior, and the uncomfortable truth that perception is not reality and character is proven by actions. Tap in, share this with a friend who judges too fast, and subscribe, rate, and leave a review so more people can find No Advisory.

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Meet The Hosts And Guest

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What's up, y'all? It's Charlotte's Most Dangerous Podcast, Notify Podcast, and it's your girl, Nola Des.

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What's up, freaks and geeks? It's Lex Rated. Hey, hey, it's your girl Crazy Night, also known as just Nine. Ariola.

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Perfect.

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And tonight we have a special guest with us. Can you please introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_12

My name is Ashra St. Uh, what's her name?

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XXX videos, OnlyFans. It's okay. We're gonna keep it rolling. So we're gonna bring you in a no advisory way. We're gonna ask you who you are. Where you are?

SPEAKER_01

Oh Lord, that did good.

SPEAKER_12

That's what you're saying. Um I'm from DC originally, but Charlotte, North Carolina. And I make music. I make art. Do you like fat bitches?

SPEAKER_05

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_12

Like as human beings? Yeah. I love everybody as human beings.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, okay, okay. But they're not attractive to you. They're not attractive.

SPEAKER_12

I'm not the fuck you mean. No.

SPEAKER_11

Professor Petite. Slim thick.

SPEAKER_12

I love everybody, man. Tight shit. You know what I mean? Everybody deserves love, man.

SPEAKER_04

So for the people meeting you for the first time, how would you define who Asher Saint is beyond music?

SPEAKER_12

Um Beyond Music, uh I'm an introverted guy. I'm a person that is very passionate for um music and art in general. Um I love to walk, which is I don't know, a lot of people down south don't, but I love walking. Um I love walking, clears my head. Um I love, I don't know, talking to guys. I love doing cool shit. I don't know. Yeah, because he's a cooler.

SPEAKER_02

When I asked, you say you like walking, but you ever been like out to Crowdress or anything, like on a hike?

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was there a couple months ago.

SPEAKER_02

So what's your favorite trail?

SPEAKER_12

Sh I wouldn't be able to tell you what the name of it is, but I could tell you like I go all the way up to the outlook, like to the room. Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_04

Okay, good. You made it. Did you take the scenic route or you took the short way? See, that nobody knows that. What's the scenic route?

SPEAKER_12

It took me forever, so I'm guessing it took I took the scenic route.

SPEAKER_04

You go up the steps either way, though. So that's what I'm saying. I'm off the city.

Finding A Lane In Alternative Music

SPEAKER_11

So boom, where where does because you have uh um a diverse type of music style? You feel me? Yeah. Um so would you what would would you consider your style hip-hop, pop, or like uh alternatives?

SPEAKER_12

Alternative, alternative, just alternative in general. Umbrella. Okay. Because I feel like that can fall under, you know, hip-hop, pop, RB, whatever.

SPEAKER_11

Facts, facts. Um when when how old was you when you feel realized like music was what you wanted to do? Uh for real, for real.

SPEAKER_12

I guess I was 17. 17? For real.

SPEAKER_04

How old are you now?

SPEAKER_12

24.

SPEAKER_04

Where were you at when you were 17? Because I know you grew up in DC in Maryland, you lived in California, and now Charlotte, like looking back, which version had the biggest influence? He didn't even say all that. Where did you get that from? Because you can look on page.

SPEAKER_12

Um but uh I guess um the part that's not, I guess, on there is is I lived in Greensboro uh for a little bit um during like the college times and stuff. Oh, cool. So I feel like Greensboro was probably the more impactful in terms of like um actually pursuing music. I love like the creative culture out there. Um and that was like the first place I went and did a project at and like recorded at a real studio and all of that type of stuff. So I said Greensboro for real.

SPEAKER_04

Okay.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So is that where you started like rapping at or what yeah?

SPEAKER_12

Well, okay. I started rapping like high school, like in Charlotte. But like when I really took it serious, I was in Greensboro. Like, yeah, I was in Greensboro.

SPEAKER_11

That was gonna be my next question. Like, did you fall in love with music before you started actually making it?

SPEAKER_12

I was in love with music since I was born. But like I guess I was kind of in a way running from it, but also um, you know, you as you can see I'm tall, I was doing sports, sure. So I was playing football most of my life, and then I grew up out of nowhere, I grew out of nowhere and started playing basketball. Um like a crazy one, and um so yeah, I uh music was always there, it was the most consistent thing out of my whole life. Okay, but um yeah, so I just started taking it serious like 2020.

Influences And Life Soundtrack

SPEAKER_05

So who are your three biggest music influencers?

SPEAKER_12

Um Kendrick Lamar, Michael Jackson, okay, Nina Simone. I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. Nina Simone.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, okay. That's some good news.

SPEAKER_12

Who's the last one? Nina Simone. Nina Simone, Nina Simone.

SPEAKER_05

I'm gonna go. Like just the pretty bags.

SPEAKER_02

No, you could, you good. So like as far as like inspiration-wise, what would you think inspires most of your music? Like where you grow up, how you grew up, or would you say just experiences altogether?

SPEAKER_12

Probably experiences altogether. Um I feel like uh like the perspective my music comes from is kind of like like I said, I'm introvert, I think a whole lot. So I think a lot of my music is a bunch of thoughts. Like I'm expressing stuff that I may not say out loud to somebody, or um, some of my songs I feel like are kind of like prayers in a way, or like just chance, you know, talking to God in a way, like just so but overall experiences.

SPEAKER_11

Do you do you listen to rock and roll too and take from that? Yeah, I listen to that. Like the two bad bitches smoke a weed, that's what it just reminds me of like just that that you feel me? Yeah, yeah, it reminds me of that like that shit. What rock and roll artists though, like specifically, you know um One Blood?

SPEAKER_12

He's kind of like Ozzy Osborn of this generation. Okay, but I listened to a lot of that. Um, I used to listen to Lincoln Park, a little bit of Green Day Coplay, Coldplay Like Hell, um Paramoy. Paramour like hell. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_11

Fi. Okay, you are you want me. Fa. No, listen. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So you named a lot of different bands and artists that you listen to. Do you know who Kit Cuddy? Well, I'm assuming you know Kid Cuddy.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

What would be a sound that's like a soundtrack for your life? Or a song that's a soundtrack for your life.

SPEAKER_12

You bring up Kid Cuddy. Did you want me to you send like a Kid Cuddy song?

SPEAKER_04

No, not a Kid Cuddy song. Oh, okay. Just the song specifically because we guess.

SPEAKER_12

I don't know, but the only thing I can hear in my head right now is like human nature by Michael Jackson. I don't know if lyric-wise that fits my whole human nature by Michael Jackson. It is. Um, but I for now, because I can't think of I I'll go, I'll go over that.

SPEAKER_11

Damn, I just had a question. It just went away though. I just had one more.

SPEAKER_02

I do have one more. So for you, like when writing your music, because me personally, I like to write myself, but like some things, you know, as you kind of mentioned, it starts off as a prayer, or like it might start off as poetry.

SPEAKER_13

So, like, how you go about things when in the process of creating your art?

Writing Process And Catching Melodies

SPEAKER_12

Um it usually starts for the most part, it starts like with the melody. So, whatever I could be in Walmart, I could be walking down the street, whatever, and I hear something in my head, and I'll get my voice notes out and say that motherfucker and do it.

SPEAKER_11

You got to do shit like that. For sure.

SPEAKER_12

And um, so then when I get to the crib or to the studio, I just build on top of that and add words to it. Um yeah, that's basically how it starts most of the time. Sometimes, like when I'm walking around, I have like some cool one-liners or like title names that I feel is fi. So I'll write those down. It might stem from those as well. But tough, that's tough.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, be using chat being what fuck AI got the next show, goddamn. I'm just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_11

Fuck AI. AI, you know, fuck with it. Yeah, fuck AI. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't use AI the other day to make an album cover. Save myself $60. I ain't gonna lie. No, that's not true.

SPEAKER_00

It's amazing.

SPEAKER_11

Cause I feel like the people I was paying before was using it.

SPEAKER_09

You know what I'm saying? Nah.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know. That shit just started. That shit just started.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, I'm saving, I'm saving my bird.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to A uh AI.

SPEAKER_11

I might start selling covers. We need to make a song covering. Maybe if you need one. Like uh how Jay-Z did fuck autotune, that'd be fire. You could use that sample too, though, Key, because it's already a rock and roll. It'd be fire.

SPEAKER_05

That'd be fire.

Purpose On Stage And No Stress

SPEAKER_05

Wait, so when people come to your performances, what do you want them to feel when they're hearing your music?

SPEAKER_12

Freedom. I want people to feel like I feel like my purpose here is to set chains free off of folks. And so when they come into an experience of mine, I want them to feel like, you know, they left all their dead weight, like they, whatever they they burdens, whatever they brung in, like they feel like a superhero, like they feel like they can do anything they want once they by the time they leave. And uh, yeah, just feel free, feel love.

SPEAKER_11

That's dope, that's dope. And how how does it feel like um being signed to no stress? Like, how's that? No stress is it look lit.

SPEAKER_12

I ain't gonna be. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

Like, first of all, we ain't even uh give a little shout out to Miss Luna. Yes, Luna's Luna is in the building.

SPEAKER_11

Shout out to Luna to Miss Luna, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's exactly that's my girl. Her name is Luna versity. Bye. Luna Tool. She likes my nickname, Luna Tool.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, that's what it is. You interrupting him though.

SPEAKER_12

I gotta hear the answer today.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_12

No, no stress is beautiful. Um yeah, I'm proud of everything we do and that we have done. Yeah, for sure. Shout out to Sud.

SPEAKER_11

Shout out to Sud, man.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, shout out to Sud. TJ, everybody that's you know, that's the team, Cedric. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_11

You want something? I ain't gonna lie. Oh, you got a question, Lex?

SPEAKER_04

I did have a question. I'm sorry, do your thing, boo. Do your thing, do your thing. It was like one song that I was listening to on your album that reminded me of Kanye, like the pianos, and I don't know which album it is, and I'm gonna be so mad at my beautiful dark twisted fantasy. Yes. Do you produce your own music?

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my fucking god. I'm a fan of it.

SPEAKER_12

There's some songs on there, let me be clear. There's songs on there that other people don't produce or produce more of, but there are songs like the one you're talking about. I produce myself.

SPEAKER_04

I I got I okay. So I picked up on that. I picked up that energy when you said your favorite artist when you mentioned earlier like your favorite type of movie is psychological thrillers. You think a lot, but you're introverted. So I I fuck I fuck with the music more now, even knowing that. It's like, damn, that's dope. Because that was one of my favorite songs.

SPEAKER_12

That's what's probably yeah, that one hits home every time.

SPEAKER_04

I fuck with it.

SPEAKER_12

Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_05

So, what drives you more? Passion, pressure, or purpose?

SPEAKER_12

Purpose. I'm just I don't know, I'm I'm on a mission. And so like I feel like this is like fire that burns in me every day. That like I absolutely have to, you know, um, complete that mission or complete my purpose. I don't feel necessarily pressure, like in terms of um I mean I feel pressure in different ways, I guess, but like it don't move me or don't it don't motivate me none to like get up and do something.

SPEAKER_04

Speaking speaking of motivation, I correct me if I'm wrong, because I was listening to like I I said it earlier on the first take. I listened to the whole album, start to finish, did not skip anything. Started the album from the first song to the last song. I fuck with the album. How has your life experiences influenced your music?

SPEAKER_12

Um how to influence it? Yeah, like it it influenced it a lot. I feel like um, you know, I hate to say it like this, but I feel like when artists best stuff comes through from pain and like whatever struggles you go through, insecurities you have, different things of that nature. So um I feel like the things that I've been through turn me into a beast in a way musically, for me to be able to express the way I want and um get people to feel the way that I felt in those moments of like whatever I'm writing about. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I like that. And I know you said you like like movies a lot. Like I mentioned you like psychological thrillers. Do you think a lot of your lyrics would be like a psychological thriller if you had to like play it out from the start to the end?

SPEAKER_12

I definitely say like the world building that I'm trying to that I'm that I'm shooting to convey is psychological thriller. Um the lyrics may not be as psychological thriller, like just the words itself, but kind of the the theme of the project. Yeah, with the production and uh you know everything else is like that's pushing psychological thriller.

SPEAKER_11

So so your writing process are you the type of artist like you can be in a like a room full of people, everybody like just functioning and you can write, write like that, or you gotta be by yourself introverted, just you and the beat and your ideas.

SPEAKER_12

Anyway, for real. I mean, I feel like my best work comes when I'm by myself. Crazy enough, I feel like I have this theory that at my crib, like the um the bathroom is a portal. Like I feel like God drops music in there. Like for years, that's been a thing. So I feel like my best stuff comes like when I just like I be chilling in the bathroom for four hours just chilling, like put some lights on a candle or something, and just be in there, just vibing to the music, and I write. So I write my best stuff in there, but I can also write with everybody doing whatever they're doing too. It don't matter.

SPEAKER_11

So that was too bad, bitch to smoke weed. Was you with some fine ass bitches, and you just like, I gotta write a song about y'all. Funny enough, I've been there before.

SPEAKER_12

Like it was, it was some, yeah, it was some wonderful. Um, yeah, I was at my homeboy Salive crib, and we were like, I just made um the production for that song, and I went over there, and we were just like, just I was just like, Yeah, yeah, just you know, just trying to see what we're gonna do. Yeah, and we figured it out. Okay, um, and then once we were doing it, the girls started like like saying it and changing, like jumping around. We was like, oh, this this the one I know we got one, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

That's where it starts from. You see the females turning up too, because they're gonna tell you, like, you need to do this, or you need to let me ask the one.

SPEAKER_02

Let me ask, like, if you could pick a little theme song to your life, what would it be?

SPEAKER_12

Theme song.

SPEAKER_13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12

Of mine?

SPEAKER_13

Yeah, um, not even like of your song, but like a theme song in general.

SPEAKER_10

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02

Cause I got one for you.

SPEAKER_04

I love key asked this song earlier. I mean, this question earlier with the soundtrack of his life. I feel like you said of human behavior. Yeah, human nature by Michael Jackson. Human nature by Michael Jackson. You think that would be your theme song as well?

SPEAKER_12

Hmm. I say for like this very mood that I'm in right now. Dang. I have a song, but it's not out. Okay. But uh I don't know. Uh it's a song called Strike Out that I've just that's the mood I feel like I'm in right now.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_12

So I I just go by that. Y'all know what I'm saying. Sure, you know, months down the line. Oh, what you think?

SPEAKER_13

You watch Bernie Mac show?

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13

Oh the man.

SPEAKER_12

I would have never thought about that. Hell yeah. That's crazy. I don't know. Bernie Mac. No, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02

Uncle Bernie.

SPEAKER_11

I I remember when I first met you. You don't, you, you don't remember me. I ain't a no, I'm a nobody. I'm a nobody. No, you can see everybody saw. Everybody started. I was with my sister, right? And we was at um we was at Sud event. It was the no stress beat event. It was when he invited the producers over. Word. So I'm in that joint, and I sent you in there, like introverted the tail, it was a room full of people, but you just it was a whole bunch of producers in there playing beats, and you was just like by the computer, just chilling. Like I ain't even, I thought you were just chilling, like you feel me? Yeah. So and I I got my camera moving around, uh uh. So then it gets to the point where they just we in a we all in the uh the main room where they playing the beats at. Right. And uh he started playing music. And then the two bad bitches with the lead joint came on. And I remember it was another song too. I can't remember it, but it was the same shit with that one too. But I remember being so locked in when the song was playing, like the energy was just like you could feel the energy from the song. Like to the point I zoned out. It was it was just me in there, it was nobody else in there. That's all right. And I didn't even know you. And I'm like, yo, this shit is fire. And I remember I had the camera right there, but I wasn't recording. And so it was like, why you ain't recording this, man? You supposed to be getting this. Like, what you doing? I'm like, well, I was just so locked in, bro. Like, I'm like, run it back, run it back. He's like, nah, you gotta get in in the moment. You gotta get in in the moment. So that's one reason why I always keep this bitch rolling. I always keep where that bitch at? It's on the charger right now, but I keep that bitch rolling. But you talented as fuck, bro, for real, bro. Like, bro, no cap. I heard that shit and I felt that shit. I'm a music connoisseur, like a music addict. Like, that shit was like, I felt that shit, bro. That shit was fire. I would love to say I'm a music connoisseur. My sister did too. She was like, that shit was fire. That shit was

Rapid Fire And Creative Identity

SPEAKER_11

all right.

SPEAKER_04

So, Ash, I have a couple rapid fire questions, and there's only one rule. You can't think about them. You just gotta answer it. First thing that comes to your mind. Yeah. Okay, bet. Go, go or trap trap. Mambo sauce or obey?

SPEAKER_12

Mambo sauce.

SPEAKER_04

Kevin Durant or Carmelo Anthony.

SPEAKER_12

Kevin Durant.

SPEAKER_04

Wale or logic?

SPEAKER_12

Wally? Oh. Wale. Why? Logic is actually a wale.

SPEAKER_11

Logic is crazy. That was fire, though. I fuck with logic. Yes, I think.

SPEAKER_04

Suit and tie or oversized hoodies.

SPEAKER_00

Wally.

SPEAKER_04

Suit and tie. Suit and tie. Stop playing, bro. What are we talking about? Record a hundred songs or a perfect 10.

SPEAKER_12

A perfect 10.

SPEAKER_04

Perform for a hundred people who know every single lyric, or 10,000 people hearing you for the first time?

SPEAKER_12

100. That's a good question.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you. One word your fans would use to describe you.

SPEAKER_13

No, thank you.

SPEAKER_04

Hopefully, great. One word you hope they never use. That's good. Failure. Failure. And then one last question. Or has been. Has been. If you could collaborate with one artist, living or dead, who would it be?

unknown

Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_12

Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_04

I thought that that was coming. Anyhow.

Saint Summer Show And New Drops

SPEAKER_05

So my last question is I see that you have Saint Summer coming up July 15th. Can you tell us about that?

SPEAKER_12

Uh Saint Summer. Um It's a concert, free free show. My last concert I did was in February at Snow Carbor. We sold that out. That was fire. And so um summertime. I'm gonna come back outside and you know do something crazy. Um but yeah, it's gonna be a concert, it's gonna be a no stress sound academy 6 p.m. Um got some good people performing on the lineup. It's gonna be fire, it's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_04

And we're gonna be there. Free show.

SPEAKER_11

All sudden events, all no stress events is fire.

SPEAKER_04

No fact. I believe it though. That shit lit. It's gonna be lit.

SPEAKER_12

It's gonna be crazy.

SPEAKER_04

I'm excited to see you. I'm sorry. I'm just I'm I would be excited to see you perform your songs with you being like an introvert.

SPEAKER_12

I'm the complete opposite.

SPEAKER_04

I believe it. That's why I'm like, I can't, yeah, we're gonna be there.

SPEAKER_11

I'm coming in with two bad bitches and an ounce of weed. Oh my mom.

SPEAKER_02

One last question.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Playboy Cardi or Young Thug.

SPEAKER_12

Cardi.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, no, I'm saying that because I see the shit, and I I would agree. But hell, okay, okay. Okay, lyrics is wild. I can see you too. But why? Why thug? Why thug?

SPEAKER_12

I don't I wouldn't be melodically rapping the way I am if Young Third didn't do it.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. I just like proving points to myself. Thank you.

SPEAKER_11

You got any albums? You got any albums or singles about to drop right now?

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, next next third, next Thursday. Get the fuck out of the club.

SPEAKER_04

That's on fire. Get the fuck out of the club.

SPEAKER_12

I can't wait till that till that shit drop. Um yeah, and then you know, project coming at some point. But yeah, get the fuck out of the club.

SPEAKER_11

That's the main focus right now. Sound like it's gonna be lit. Summertime vibes, crazy time anthem. I believe it. I believe it.

SPEAKER_04

I don't be there a strong dream.

SPEAKER_11

Michael Jackson, damn. I'm sorry. My bad. Jesus. My bad. And this is my last question. Do you feel like it is nobody in Charlotte or NC period with your lane, the lane that you're in right now with music?

SPEAKER_12

Like I don't hear nobody that's sound like I don't believe there's anybody fucking with me if that's it. Yeah. In a way. I mean anthem.

SPEAKER_11

I make a lot of different things. You can turn up, so it's anthem. Like it's man. You can hear it on a radio, you can hear it on a movie. Yeah, I don't I don't hear I don't hear it much. Here.

SPEAKER_05

Definitely not hearing. I will say your sounds sound like similar to my brother's in New Orleans. Y'all see like it definitely sounds the same. Shut the fuck up, Swish. It definitely sounds the same. Y'all, y'all music is the same. I like your res more, though. I don't want to fuck my brother's music like that. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You say your brother asked his.

SPEAKER_00

He's so trash.

SPEAKER_02

He's so trash. So why would you compare?

SPEAKER_03

No, no, like, I mean like the you know, the rock and the hip hop and all that. No, that was irrelevant. I'm talking about the way he raps. My brother is trash. He could rap.

SPEAKER_04

He could rap. So Ash, I got to tell you tell the people where they can find you.

Where To Find Asher Saint

SPEAKER_12

Um Instagram, you can find me, I.asher Saint 2A's 2Ts to spell that. Um TikTok, I want to say it's Asher Saint 2. And then Apple Music, Spotify, all of that, Asher Saint 2A's 2Ts.

SPEAKER_04

Jeez. Back from our commercial.

SPEAKER_11

Lex, we're waiting on you.

SPEAKER_04

What do you mean? She's right there. I didn't even go nowhere.

SPEAKER_03

What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_11

I just wanted to say it.

SPEAKER_03

What are we talking about? Alright. We're finna get into the bounce breakdown with Chuba. Should be free. Where's the song at? Mama's is back in this bitch. I'm back. Just came back from New Orleans. My city.

SPEAKER_11

You heard me.

SPEAKER_03

My city. You heard me. You heard me. Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_11

I don't know. You don't say you heard me right. I don't know. What do you mean? I don't know. Until you say you heard me right, you can't claim New Orleans.

SPEAKER_05

You heard me? Stop playing with me. Yeah. Bye. You don't know you're from there. You don't even know how to say it.

SPEAKER_11

You heard me. You heard me. You hear me out.

SPEAKER_05

Anyways, anyways. We're from New Orleans, baby.

SPEAKER_11

Come on, baby.

unknown

Yeah, baby. Go ahead.

Bounce Breakdown Starts With Essence Fest

SPEAKER_04

We are back with the bounce breakdown where I talk about drama, the news, and this fucked up world we live in.

SPEAKER_10

Ain't that right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10

She said, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So my hot take for the week is if y'all didn't know, No Vars was at the Essence Fest doing media.

SPEAKER_11

Going crazy.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Going crazy.

SPEAKER_11

Putting in work, holding it down for the game. Taking pictures with Ari thick ass.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she thick as fuck out of her sake. Damn. For real.

SPEAKER_11

You should have grabbed a chunk, didn't wash your hand, damp me up when you got back.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. Let me smell your hand or something.

SPEAKER_11

Like, god damn.

SPEAKER_04

That's crazy. That's wild. Okay, anyway. Who else did you see other than Ari? Shamar. We've seen Pastor Mike Jr. You know his gospel artist.

SPEAKER_03

Love him. It's Patty LaBelle. Tamar Bradston.

SPEAKER_11

Patty LaBelle, like a hundred.

SPEAKER_03

Regina Carter, her mom Toya Johnson. Oh, a lot of people. Tiana Taylor, Candy, Yandy Smith.

SPEAKER_11

Yandy was out there. Tiana Taylor, yeah. Yandy's single now, too. She was out there.

SPEAKER_04

I wasn't over there at that time. He was out there.

SPEAKER_11

I would have ran down on Yandy.

SPEAKER_04

I'm sorry, Medici. Oh, and we seen Cardi B in that bit. We sing Cardi B.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, yeah, I've seen that. You was front row, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04

I was front row right there. I saw I got this pass.

SPEAKER_11

Shout out to Barty, yo. Shout out to Bartie.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. Cordy, Cordy.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, so but there was a lot of like negative talk about the Essence Fest. What's so online, about the convention center, of why it was like a lot of lines, how BeautyCon got shut down multiple times in one day.

SPEAKER_02

They weren't prepared enough.

SPEAKER_03

No, they was prepared.

SPEAKER_04

It's just the fact that it was just too many people, which is always too many of you people.

SPEAKER_11

Thanks. But y'all look like y'all, y'all ain't having no problem interviewing.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, I had that pass. I jumped right in there. Y'all saying I ain't even gotta get a line right there. For real? Yeah, I was so happy. You was presidential. And told me he was like, you ain't even gonna jump, you ain't even gonna stand out. You jumping in me. I said, what?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm gonna go get all my free shit, all my mom's.

SPEAKER_11

See yo, see yo, I'm on your ass too, cuz you go to these uh star-studded events and stuff, and then we got the other events with you feeling me, which you feel me, like I'm on your ass, nigga. Like, what's up, but you didn't invite niggas though. I ain't gonna tell you that you ain't invite niggas. Definitely did. But you ain't come to the other joints. Come come to the low budget with the low, with the local, with the local niggas that ain't made it yet. Come to them, nigga. Come to them with us, come back to the trenches, you bougie ass nigga. You bougie ass nigga. Yeah, he was chillin'. Shout out to my boy, man.

SPEAKER_04

He was he was chillin'.

SPEAKER_11

The goat, man, the man with the plan.

SPEAKER_04

He was chillin', huh? But all I'm gonna say is for them people who, you know, don't got passes like I did, I was just just just a goat early. You were digested the goat.

SPEAKER_11

We rubbing it in, bro.

SPEAKER_13

I just talking to you. Y'all looking at it.

SPEAKER_05

You were suggested.

SPEAKER_04

You were suggested.

SPEAKER_11

Did you get the interview already?

SPEAKER_04

No, I just took a picture. I said, hey girl. And she's like, hi, I took a picture. So your past didn't get you an interview. It just didn't get a good idea. Oh, no, that that was a different location. That wasn't the Essence Fest.

SPEAKER_03

I actually I actually went to the ghetto to go see her.

SPEAKER_11

That was that was the outside.

SPEAKER_03

That sounds funny. Shout out to this, Peter Lamb. I was in my head.

SPEAKER_04

My daughter did you line? And that just made me realize how small Ari is because no, she's short as hell.

SPEAKER_13

Really? And like she was smaller than this.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But I'm gonna say, for the people that don't got enough passes, like meaty passes, you know, of staff passes and all that, they don't work for essence, I would say to go early as hell, because we got there around like eight in the morning, and those lines was deep as fuck. So you gotta get them like six in the morning. Oh wow, six in the morning. And if you don't want to, you know, get there that early, because the doors open at 10 o'clock for VIP. The doors open at 8:30, 8:30 for VIP, and them tickets are 193. Now, BeautyCon got their own VIP ticket, and that's 250.

SPEAKER_04

So I would suggest to get that. But don't VIP teams only have like one festival? No, it's three days. No, no, but like it's just once a year, right? Yeah, once a year. So these prices ain't gonna be the same prices, and it's gonna be the same. It might be, it might be. We can put money on that. It's gonna be the same. It's gonna be the same. 12 months from now, we'll figure out who voted for them prices being the same, or if they're gonna be fluctuated, cuz listen, they're gonna hike them prices up.

SPEAKER_00

They won't just say for it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. And then the the complaints about the lines, though, like y'all gotta understand, like a line.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he said I hate you switch.

SPEAKER_11

What up, gang?

SPEAKER_03

Y'all gotta understand them lines, like it's like. I did, I got a lot of shit. It's over there. And I got something. You should have been there. Yo, their name was on your whole pass.

SPEAKER_04

Like, you got a whole pass. You didn't show up. Put your name on it. Ooh. We didn't cancel. They didn't cancel, they just they just let niggas know the week of.

SPEAKER_09

Why y'all cancel on my boy for it? Why y'all cancel on my boy?

SPEAKER_04

Right, K? I've been saying it'd be nigga shit. But then when I say it's Rockyus. But it be nigga shit. Go ahead, Dev. Alright. So we're gonna get to this breakdown. We're gonna get to this breakdown.

Tragedy In Thailand Raises Hard Questions

SPEAKER_04

So y'all know the monks have faced a tragedy during their walk in Thailand. Still talk about the RP, R.

SPEAKER_09

P.

SPEAKER_03

Where was the tragedy? Wait, wait, wait.

unknown

Don't say that. You for real? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all have to tell you, yeah. So a pickup truck, truck a pickup truck driven by an 11-year-old boy who has special needs, crashed into a group of Buddhist monks who were participating in a religious pilgrimage, according to authorities. Y'all know that. 35 months had just begun a 160-mile wall from Mukdahan Province to Uban, Rachatani. Ratchetani. I guarantee you that's not her name. It is. Oh my mama, I'll pronounce that shit.

SPEAKER_04

I got that shit right now. I can show you.

SPEAKER_08

11 years old and special name.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03

The devil is busy because God knows, damn. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. So there is a clip surfacing that the monks were walking in a single file line along the roadside, moments before the collagen, collagen, collagen. Officials now say.

SPEAKER_04

Damn.

SPEAKER_03

Not because I was trying. I got it. Officials now say.

SPEAKER_04

Shut up.

SPEAKER_00

Bro, there's no way you said collage.

SPEAKER_03

You know what's crazy? I got that at home too. Black girl I didn't know. I bet you do. Oh. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, officials now say 10 monks have died from the injuries. Five died on the scene, and five died at the hospital. More than 10 others were hospitalized with at least one person initially listed in critical conditions. Police say the 11-year-old allegedly took his parents' pickup truck without permission, losing control of the vehicle.

SPEAKER_04

Obviously.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, losing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because I just want to know what made you steal your parents' car. 11 years ago. What's going on?

SPEAKER_11

It's a lot of um special needs people crazy.

SPEAKER_04

That's what it is. All right, the devil. First of all, they made a like a point to say that he had special needs. So that means he's like special.

SPEAKER_08

So like how he could, or he could be in a wheelchair and he helped walk in or something.

SPEAKER_04

It don't matter how he can't be injured. How are you a special needs 11-year-old getting keys to a pitch? No, when they say special in the pickup truck robbing and driving over 150 miles. What y'all called me? No, he didn't drive 160 miles. They was walking, their walk was 160 mile walk.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I was about to say that. Okay, but either way, the parents, for one goddamn, if you got a special need child, regardless of whatever the fuck syndrome or whatever they have. Where the fuck were you when your truck gone? That's what I'm trying to think.

SPEAKER_04

How did he get in the car or the truck and start that bitch up? At 11. Like you taught that, you taught that man how to do it. Top the parents sleep.

SPEAKER_11

We just finished fucking. We knocked out in here.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_11

We didn't have sex until we thought the baby was asleep.

SPEAKER_04

Is he verbal? Um we I don't know. They don't say that. But the child can make it a simple fact that he's special. They're not gonna say how special he is. They're not gonna say how special he is. They're definitely not gonna say that. I don't know. Them motherfuckers be smarter than the other.

SPEAKER_03

But he was in shock. Like he didn't talk when it was time for his statement, he didn't say anything. I wouldn't either, and I'm not special.

SPEAKER_04

I wouldn't have shit to say. He was in shock. You just told us he killed like ten of them motherfuckers. I would have talked. You seen a video, it's like a domino effect.

SPEAKER_03

It was dead ass like a domino effect.

SPEAKER_04

They owned in a single line, and all you see is the car saying, whoosh.

SPEAKER_00

They just fly. Okay, let's next topic.

SPEAKER_04

And I guarantee you, I guarantee you, it's gonna be a whole group of people saying, he's special, don't send him to jail.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but the child, the child is in custody. He is in police custody right now. Yes, and the authorities are trying to see if they want to charge the parents with neglect. They are charges for allowing the child to access their vehicle.

SPEAKER_04

They definitely are. Because what the fuck? Because you y'all remember that boy that got in that that stole his grandmama's car and he said he wanted to do hood rat shit with his hood rat friends. Damn, but the Demarius, the market.

SPEAKER_03

Something.

SPEAKER_04

He said he wanted to do hood rat shit with his hood friends, and he didn't hit nobody. And he was like eight, nine years old and he didn't hit nobody. This mofo hit ten people. But he was supposed to be it. In a pickup truck.

SPEAKER_00

When he's pressed to hit it?

SPEAKER_04

No, that nigga was just black and bad as hell. Yeah. Demarian's we don't know. It was probably the marriage. Yes, he was special, but like that's what I'm saying. It should have been harder for him to do all that. I'm trying to figure out how he got from point A to point B because that is crazy fucking work. They better, they better charge them fucking parents. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_13

Hold on. Can I say something? It's hard work with special kids.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I'm saying. That's all I wanted to say. It is a lot. That's why I feel like that the parents definitely planned that shit.

unknown

Bro.

SPEAKER_03

They definitely did. No, I'm like, like they told they probably put him in a car.

SPEAKER_05

Just to go do that.

SPEAKER_13

Fun fact, as us working. Working. Working. Damn this.

SPEAKER_00

With us fucking.

SPEAKER_04

They put him in the car down. No, I'm saying like he put himself in the car, but it was like, go drive up here.

SPEAKER_03

But not see with us working with kids.

SPEAKER_13

You know what I'm saying? And also, like me personally working in ABA and children with special needs. Like I said, a lot of them motherfuckers is a lot smarter than us. They know right from fucking wrong. No, but I'm saying it's not even about a scale. I'm pretty sure for a simple fact, if we know the true story, possibly he wanted to go get something. That's why he got in the car. He 11. Mind you, they want that shit on demand. I speak to a lot of special needs people throughout the day. So with that being stated, it's like, bro, they know right from wrong. Just unfortunately, it just happened to be a fucked up situation, you know?

SPEAKER_03

So yeah. Alright, my next topic.

Verizon Robbery Karma Caught On Camera

SPEAKER_03

All right. So there's a 29-year-old Maryland man, Jalen Goddard, allegedly broke into a Verizon store in Illicot City by smashing a window.

SPEAKER_04

How you know that? Because I'm from the DMV. And then also it's this context. So what? Okay. I know that much. Want to do my topics? No. I don't want to do it. I'm sorry. I won't say nothing else.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, but he broke in by smashing a window and stealing merchandise. According to investigators, Jalen cut his hand on the broken glass, leaving behind blood at the scene. While he was robbing Verizon, he left his car running across the street and someone stole his truck outside.

SPEAKER_04

Jalen decided to call the police at the location to get help about his truck. The police officers that pulled up were the same officers that were investigating the robbery scene.

SPEAKER_03

The officers identified blood on Jalen's hands, glasses, and shirt that matched the evidence from the burglary scene. Police arrested him on charges including second-degree burglary, theft, and destruction of property. Body camera footage was released by the Higher County Police Department, captured the moment of an officer joke saying that was some karma right there. Which it is, because that is a dumbass move to call the police after you just robbed the store about your car being stolen. That is so stupid. That was the dumbest thing you ever could have done.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, when you when you think about it, not really, because he already cut himself, his blood was already there, he was already fucked up. He was already fucked up. So I'd rather like cut up that. I seen a video, it wasn't that bad. I but still his DNA was there. How the fuck is he gonna explain? Yeah, but then in the video he lied. Switch, don't get beat the fuck up.

SPEAKER_11

It was funny.

SPEAKER_03

No, it was not that shit is not funny, y'all. So it's gonna go down to my mama, like what in the book?

SPEAKER_11

What's really going on?

SPEAKER_03

Anyways, he he off the shrooms tonight.

SPEAKER_02

But anyways, he shut the fuck up, bitch. No, you're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03

All right, but when they when the police pulled up, he basically told them, like, no, I was not, because they said you was at Verizon, you got blood in your hands. And he was like, nah, nah, I wasn't at Verizon, I wasn't at Verizon. The whole time that nigga was at Verizon.

SPEAKER_04

So well, I mean, I knew that because you said he cut himself there. Yeah, there was no way he was gonna get out of that. So I guess he figured he like I said, he might as well come home to a car. Shit. I'm going to jail. I might as well come back to my car. Um I don't think I would have called the police for myself. Definitely wouldn't have called the police for myself. But I'm just saying I understand his logic a little bit.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm. So he's going to preliminary courts later here and later this month. So yeah, yeah. Okay. My last one is about because I know y'all heard about this because it's a must-talk.

Missing Teen Case Feels Iffy

SPEAKER_03

There was a death of an 18-year-old Nolan Xavier Wells, a football player from Mississippi.

SPEAKER_04

Nolan disappeared on July 4th after traveling with friends by boat to Horn Island off the Mississippi Gulf course. Damn, I didn't know he died. I didn't know that. I was still thinking he was missing. Nah. My boy gone, my boy gone.

SPEAKER_03

Authorities said he was last seen around 3 p.m. on the island. According to investigators and statements, the group's boat reportedly experienced mechanical issues. Officials said Nolan chose to remain on the island, expecting to return later with another group, while his friends headed back to the shore. After he failed to return home, his family reported him missing, launching a large search involving large authorities, local authorities, the U.S. Coast Guard, National Park Service, and volunteer search teams, and his mom's friend, who is also a friend of Nolan, is a judge. The son of the judge bought his phone back to Nolan's mom, which I'm trying to figure out how the fuck he got his phone. Why do you have his phone if he stayed on that island by himself? There's no way we're gonna stay on that island by ourselves without a phone. That's stupid.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, low-key, like if you know when you go somewhere in this water and you give all your shit to one person, so it's in their backpack.

SPEAKER_03

But you chose to stay on an island by yourself without your phone? No, not at all.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, he probably didn't think he was gonna be gone that long.

SPEAKER_13

Right, and then also, like you just said, it was his friends, and then also there was another, it was two different boats or whatever. You know how like, or whatever, whatever. You said something where it was two different groups, you did. So with that being said, you know how like Carolyn's, like let's say y'all all going together, but you got two degree seats. Y'all can't sit together, but y'all on least same ride. Yeah, yeah. So it could have been some type of situation like that, and even like Legs said, somebody gave a shit the the that designated person.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, shit's iffy. So I understand that part of it, but continue.

SPEAKER_03

All right, so investigation remains active. Officials are asking anyone who was on or near Juan Island that day to come forward, especially anyone who has photos or videos. There's now a video circulating around where there's a group of people arguing, allegedly being Nolan and his friends going back and forth.

SPEAKER_04

The family has has uh has hired an attorney, Ben Crump, as they're can as they continue to seek answers because they don't believe there was no foul play.

SPEAKER_03

Like, because investigators say there was no foul play, but the family doesn't believe that at all. Today there was an update that the messages have been allegedly deleted from his phone, which I'm gonna say allegedly it was his friend that took Ida's phone. That's why he got his phone. That's why it's just iffy, so iffy about this whole shit. But all I'm gonna say about this situation is that you cannot trust everyone. Your closest motherfucker will be your enemy. So watch out. That's it.

SPEAKER_04

That's it for me. That's it for me. That's crazy work. That's it for me. I don't know, but like my parents kind of taught me don't go anywhere where you're like the only one. It doesn't matter if like you're like the only girl, the only black, the only gay. Like it don't matter. Just like if you're the only one, like you don't have no fucking allies, don't go. Yeah. You gotta have a point. I was like, I was gonna ask my friend if I mean because I don't know nobody, um. Yeah, you gotta have an anchor point. You gotta have somebody that, like, if it's a life and death situation, you can trust that person. And granted, he may maybe he did trust one of one of them, but like, I don't know. I was taught don't be the only ones. Swish, who your life or death person you be going out with?

SPEAKER_10

Life or death person I'm going out with? Yeah. Over there in a corner, Kaya. So yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Next. All right, y'all.

Triggered Segment On The Halo Effect

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna get triggered. It's time to be triggered. You already know my name is what, Swish?

SPEAKER_11

Ariel, number two.

SPEAKER_04

It's Lex.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, overrated. Lex overrated.

SPEAKER_04

Ain't no overrated, nigga. Lex rated. Lex.

SPEAKER_11

Lex rate it. Lex rate it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, you know, thing. You know, you can always call on me.

SPEAKER_04

Shut the fuck up. What the fuck? Wait. All right. So every everybody thinks they're a good judge of character, right? I mean, for the average person, they think they're a good judge of character. But psychology says your brain starts judging someone before they're even in your presence and saying a word. Now, here's why. Your brain can make judgments about someone in a second, before they've spoken, before they've done anything, before you know anything about them, you're already deciding if they're trustworthy. It's not intuition. Intuition, I apologize. Rubbing off on all y'all niggas tonight. That's your brain-taking shortcuts. You associate certain features and certain aspects of a person with trust and safety. So if you're not asking why this happens, it's okay because I'm gonna tell y'all anyway. It's called the halo effect. The halo effect means one positive quality, like being attractive, causes your brain to assume other positive qualities. So not only are you fine shit, but your brain starts thinking, oh yeah, they're honest, they're intelligent, they're kind, they're successful. None of these things have been proven. Your brain filled in the blanks without even speaking to the person. And research has like supported this for decades. The halo effect isn't just new when social media was created. But I am gonna break it down. So if two people walk into the same interview, they have the same education, the same work experience, same answers, one person is conveniently attractive and the other is ugly. But ugly. Who gets the benefit of the doubt if they stumble on their interview? Studies consistently show that attractive applicants are more likely to be viewed as competent, and as a result, they're more likely to get hired. So does appearance really matter? They they do say some people have pretty privilege. Do y'all think appearance matters? No, not really. Damn. I wasn't expecting that response. Wait, can I understand? That's not exactly where you think personality. I'm talking about like like so you you say somebody has to show you their personality for you to think anything about them.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, nah, nah, nah. I'll be quick to judge a motherfucker with a parents.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like it does matter. If somebody if somebody walks into the room and they look crazy, are you gonna think they're trustworthy? I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I don't know. I'm gonna definitely judge the fuck out of you. I'm definitely gonna do that, but I ain't gonna say if you're trustworthy or not. So that's what I'm saying. The Halo effect, it's like it's a it's something that happens to humans innately. You don't have any control over it. Somebody that's attractive is always more trustworthy for you. They don't look as much of a threat because they're attractive. I don't trust nobody. Well, I'm just trying to like the average question. What was your question, Ryan? You said you were trying to understand. Yeah, because like okay, your question is attraction over what?

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04

My question is does appearance really matter as much as what I just mentioned? Because I said I brought up the halo effect and how attractive people we innately trust them. Right. So does it matter to you? Like what somebody looks like if a person is attractive, would you trust them innately? And if somebody looked crazy in the face, would you be like, oh shit, back up?

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, not necessarily looks don't matter. It's about personality, it's about okay, but then again, I'm different. Like, get a good conversation with me. Okay, we cool. I got you, you know. So different.

Filters And Pretty Privilege Online

SPEAKER_04

So um, I'm gonna bring up social media real quick: Instagram, TikTok, all those apps. If you think about it, people have to have perfect lighting. A lot of people do like professional editing filters. There's a study in 2024 that found that AI beauty filters were added to filters or added to photos, excuse me, the same to the same exact people were rated as most or more trustworthy, more intelligent, and more attractive. So I'll repeat that. They said anybody with the AI filter added to their picture, those same people with just a regular picture of them, and the AI filter picture, they were voted more trustworthy, intelligent, and attractive, but nothing about the person changed, just their picture. So people essentially trusted their face and not their facts. And of course, it doesn't stop there when it comes to attraction. It also talks about well, I I did some research and it shows that attractive people are often given second chances, better customer service, higher tips, better performance reviews, more leadership opportunities because people normally assume positive things about them before they even uh prove anything. So people don't always reward reality, they often reward perception. And I've said it before on trigger, but I'll say it again: perception isn't always reality. If you think about your own life, how many times have you heard he's toxic, but he's fine? She's crazy, but she's bad as fuck. Those aren't jokes, it's like it's psychology. That's a halo effect live and in color. So, of course, I want to give y'all some examples of this happening in real life.

When Charm Becomes A Threat

SPEAKER_04

And my favorite example is Ted Bundy. Some people may know Ted Bundy and some may not. He was a serial killer. I don't know exactly how many women he killed, but before people knew him, like knew who he really was, they described him as handsome, charming, intelligent, or intelligent and well spoken. Some women defended him during his murder trial because they couldn't believe that somebody like Ted, who looked the way he did, would or could commit the crimes he did. Yeah, no, no, no. But Ted Bundy, he also looked different a lot of times, too. So like he cut his hair and maybe grew some facial hair, but overall he was always attractive.

SPEAKER_13

Everybody said that, and one lady even went so far as to fucking around and marrying him, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to his to the audience's point, that if you didn't hear, he said Jeffrey Dahmer as well. There were several times where Dahmer was put in situations where the police was right there with the victim, and the victim was like, This guy is kidnapping me, and he was able to talk his way out of situations. It's a situation where he had a body in the back of his car, it's a situation where somebody escaped his house and was like half naked, and the police let him back into their custody. His next door neighbor called the goddamn police on him so many fucking times about the smell coming out of his house, and the police not once went in that bitch and saw anything or even cared to. So, to sum it all up, their appearance didn't make them the serial killer. At no way, shape, or form did they look at these people and think that this person is a serial killer, but it helped lower their guards. Jeffrey didn't look like somebody that would kill a bunch of people, he looked like a nerd, a soft, gentle man. So nobody really assumed he was out here killing people. And Ted was attractive. Why would he have to kill women or or SA women? That was people's thought process. So, a more recent example of this is somebody by the name of Wade Wilson.

Wade Wilson And Attraction To Danger

SPEAKER_04

If you have not seen uh Netflix like worse X Ever, is a docuseries. It's only like two seasons, but you might want to check it out because a lot of them fuckers on there is crazy. There was an episode called Dating the Deadpool Killer. The Deadpool Killer is Wade Wilson. He had a pattern of manipulation and physical abuse where, like, he had several women that he was talking that he was talking to up and down Florida, and he was just going from one person's house to another, stalks like stalking, excuse me, sexual assault. A X-A I S A, I don't know why I said sexual assault this time, and ultimately the double homicide that happened in Florida, he killed two women almost like for no reason. One was walking on the side of the road, and the other one he met at a bar. But through his time living in Florida, he connected with over 200 women, 200 women up and down Florida that he dated while also being abusive, toxic, and then later on killing somebody. Once he was arrested, he received over 754 photos of women and had up to 300 visitor requests to come see him. Victims of his admitted to letting their guard down because he initially presented himself as attractive, conventional, and not a threat. His attractive baseline features like his charming personality and uh his model-like height let thousands of his followers online to experience something that they call, and I had it like spelt out so I won't mispronounce it. Haberstuffy. Haberstuffily. Or however however you pronounce it, because I'm probably butchering it, but arousal and attraction of violent criminals. That's what it is. I think it's hyperstuffily, but it's it looks like it's spelled out as Habersuffily, so hopefully I'm pronouncing it right. If not, we'll hopefully have it in the comments so y'all know how to spell it. But what it is is the attraction of violent criminals, sort of like women that have attraction to men in uniform.

SPEAKER_11

Words of the week.

SPEAKER_04

Right? She could have definitely had this word as word is weak. Many falsely believe that people that look attractive do not have the likelihood of harming people or causing and committing crimes. So these women that are attracted to violent criminals feel like they can either fix, save, or be the person that gets them to stop their behavior. And not only men are also criminals as well as women. You got women that set men up. I think they call them like backdoor climbs.

SPEAKER_06

I was gonna say Cardi B. Damn, not Cardi B. Hold up, hold up, hold up exactly what you're saying. Rap a fabric. Cardi B was attractive, and she was attracting men and then rocking.

SPEAKER_04

She did, she did say Joke men.

SPEAKER_06

She didn't care, but she was not saying not on that no more, but she was the flip side.

SPEAKER_13

Right, that's what I'm saying. Like, part of me was just was just robbed, man. The overall fact.

SPEAKER_04

You but you telling the truth. Because I feel like there was an instance in like 2020 or 20 or 2019 where um young bird was like robbed or something. Like he picked up a girl at the club and went back to his house, and she was like texting a bunch of dudes her location, and like he had security and everything, but like he was in the house and like saw them on the camera. Yeah, that was like a real life thing. They said Pop Smoke was set up by a girl too. Yeah, they say it all the time. What was the rapper that was like uh dancing and singing on old dude's grave?

SPEAKER_10

BC dude.

SPEAKER_04

Julio Fulio was set up as well. So it's not it's not just it's not just women looking at attractive men and not understanding that they can also be a threat. It's men seeing attractive women, and for whatever reason, they let their guard down, and these women are setting them up. You can even go familial with it. How often how often do like sisters and cousins say, I'm about, I'm about to go get my my older cousin, I'm about to go get my boy cousin, my boy cousin's gonna come here and beat your ass. And then you're you're putting this person in a situation, but because she's deemed as innocent, she she exactly. You won't you you're gonna come to her defense. It happens every fucking time. Every fucking time. And my question is, why? Why as humans do we trust attractive people?

SPEAKER_09

Pretty privileged ugly. Pretty privileged.

unknown

I'm not trusting nobody ugly.

SPEAKER_04

No, ain't nobody ain't nobody gonna trust nobody ugly. It just be like that sometimes. And then the the craziest thing is is there's there's no gauge to when they get to the point where you're like, I don't trust them. It did they look a little funny. They they just they look crazy, right? It's always like that.

SPEAKER_02

No. Okay, but wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

I want to go.

SPEAKER_13

I gotta put it on, but I do gotta put it on. I do got a question because I'm I'm not because I want Halo Halo affected me like What am I gonna? It's like I'm gonna treat you like that regardless until like you could have been ugly. If you fit the look of what it is, I'm gonna trust you. So you could have been ugly if you on some whatever type type of time you want, as long as you on that, I got the halo. Like, I'm not gonna think you're gonna do nothing until you show me different. You get what I'm saying? I'm saying, like, the person could be ugly. That's why I'm asking, like, y'all don't trust, like, what's your halo effect?

SPEAKER_04

Like, no, I think it, I think more so like within the first five seconds of seeing somebody. The first five seconds of seeing somebody, you don't have time for them to show you otherwise, that's more so the halo effect. The halo effect is first glance, first meeting of somebody, you trust them because they're attractive and they don't look like they're gonna do you nothing. If somebody comes in now all beat up with holes all ripped up, look crazy and I maybe got a cock eye and a lazy eye at the same time, you're gonna be like, damn shit, let me move, let me get out of this nigga way real quick. That's the halo effect. Because everybody, I I would hope, if you got to know somebody, attractive or not, if you saw that they're a flawed person, you wouldn't trust them. I would hope.

SPEAKER_02

I would hope.

SPEAKER_04

But I agree with you. I I allow you to show me what type of person you're gonna be ugly or attractive. But like I said earlier, research shows that people trust attractive people. They do not trust ugly people. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_13

They missing out. Some ugly motherfuckers be on their shit. Oh my mama, right? Right.

SPEAKER_02

They might not be, they not ugly to everybody. I don't even think that ugly ugly to me. I'm not gonna trust.

SPEAKER_04

What you think they in my trust? You really not ugly like that. Because you you're really not ugly. There's no lame you're really not ugly. Lane to be like, okay, you just fall at the spot, and you're like too ugly for me to trust. It's just they just don't look right. Like I said, you know, I feel like that is crazy. So damn. To end the segment for Trigger tonight, I have like three questions that I want to ask in the point. Have you ever trusted someone because they look trustworthy? Have you ever ignored obvious red flags because somebody was attractive? Have you ever judged someone negatively before they even spoke? All the time. If you answer yes to any of those, then maybe it wasn't just your intuition. Maybe your brain was fooled by their appearance. And if you leave with nothing else from this conversation tonight, please understand character has never lived in somebody's face. Character lives in their action. Like Seven said earlier, if the exact same person has complete has a completely different face, would you still trust them? You know my answer. I don't trust you don't trust. I don't trust niggas. I don't trust niggas, I don't trust bitches. The final the question was with friends. If you meet somebody and they're the exact same person, but they aren't as attractive, would you still trust them? If you trust them as an attractive person, once they maybe get get like a mold or something or a scab over their face where they look a little bit different, would you still trust them regardless?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, because your look don't because they gotta cut. Right. They don't like no spore. What is your answer? I don't know. Trust and attractive, like no, right.

SPEAKER_13

No, yeah, I like the first thing. Why gotta trust somebody? You know what I'm saying? Like, how do you think about trust in everything?

SPEAKER_04

We're like as soon as you meet us somebody, we're like we're like 20-year-old, 30-year-old people that have had life experience. Sure. What what I'm talking about is like the average human, because when you when you think about these studies, they're not going through people's lives and saying, let's see if this person has had situations where they needed to trust somebody. They picked random people for these studies. So that that's showing you that the average person randomly picked in America is more likely to trust somebody that they find attractive or that looks attractive, then they are to trust that same exact person but with a different face. Now, may I ask at any point, was it like any race symbol? Don't skip, don't get her started. I'm gonna actually, because you know, you don't know how she is a race. The the pool that they picked, the people that are looking at the pictures, and the pool that they picked for the people that had filters, all different races, all different ages. Well, don't get her started with race. Now, what's your answer? My answer is similar to yours. I don't really trust anybody. I know that's right. But when I meet somebody, I treat every situation um the same. I treat everybody with kindness and respect until I'm shown otherwise. Like seven. That's why I was like, yeah, I agree with you. And the reason why I do that is because I want to present to everybody the exact same way. Um, not for any other reason, other than I don't want you to have your guard up. Because when somebody has their guard up upon interaction or introduction, they're going to alter how they act, they're going to change certain things about themselves or not say certain things. Based on how you introduce yourself to them. So for me, it has nothing to do with attraction. Can I a hundred percent agree that more attractive people are often trustworthy? Hell yeah. Because if I walk up to somebody and he got a lazy eye and he got a cock eye and he look a little crazy, like wow. Like if he look crazy, I'm going to try to go to a different line. Or not avoid him, but like I'm not going to want to go there. And that's not saying because something's wrong with him, but it's just innately, that's the reaction.

SPEAKER_11

Sound a little shallow to me, man.

SPEAKER_04

But that's the point. Humans are shallow. Humans are shallow. You shallow. At least four or five people in the audience agree.

SPEAKER_11

You know that's kind of shallow.

SPEAKER_04

At least four or five people in the audience agree.

SPEAKER_11

That's overly shallow.

SPEAKER_04

I agree with you because I don't trust people. I'm cool with people with one leg. That's why we cool. Like I said, I'm gonna shut up on this.

SPEAKER_11

I know mad people with one leg that I'm cool with. I get along with them great.

SPEAKER_07

Are you arguing to agree with the point? Or are you arguing that we need to change the point?

SPEAKER_11

Me? Like, like, yeah, like what are you doing right now? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04

I'm not arguing with that. What are we doing? I'm not arguing either side. What are we doing here? I'm not arguing either side. I'm I'm trying to get other people's perspectives on why they think that is, because it's been let me see that mic seven.

Why We Trust Pretty People

SPEAKER_11

My boy need a mic seven.

SPEAKER_04

It's been proven there's research on it, and it proves that more attractive people are deemed trustworthy. So because this has been research that's been produced and scientifically looked at by whoever the fuck to verify it as regular fucking people in a studio room tonight. Why do you think that is? Why are people that are more attractive a little bit more trustworthy? Or why do people look at attractive people as trustworthy? Why do you think that is? I'm not on either side because I know what my answer is. I ain't on either side. I'm trying to figure out why the fuck this is happening.

SPEAKER_07

Hold up, hold on. I'll put a little direction on mine. Mine is gonna argue the fact that we don't need to discriminate that much. Mine is to argue the fact I'm a little religious, just tab it. You know what I'm saying? God said not to judge. The people who judge God, he was an outcast, right? But he was God. Did what I'm saying? So let's start there. Alright? First off, you listening, right? Um I wish I could be able to do that. Whether they cockey, whether the the feet bent, whether the whatever, you know what I'm saying, does not judge does not change the index the integrity of the person. All right, you gotta walk the walk, you gotta talk to talk. All right. Now, you your question to answer your question of why that is, okay? Like my man said behind the camera, everything that glitter ain't gold, right? You can put syrup on shit and try to call it pancakes, but what is it? You see what I'm saying? So people can have a facade, one things can have a facade, but you get deeper, right, with less discrimination into the integrity of people, and that is when you start to learn to trust people, no matter what they look like. Okay? So that's to argue my point. But to answer your question, why that is, is because it's a facade. Instagram is a facade, makeup is a facade. You dig what I'm saying? The weave is a facade, the the the jewels, the the diamonds is a facade. You know what I'm saying? And you just gotta unravel all of that. But at the end of the day, that that's to answer your question. Because you could you could you do you can do whatever. You could put a facade on anything. You could put you know, you could put a wrap on the car. Now the car is a whole different fucking coat.

SPEAKER_04

You did what I'm saying? That's the point why, but I Well, what I'm saying is is what the reason why I'm saying that. Perception is real. No, your your perception isn't always real. I said this, yes, 110%. That's the point of the argument tonight. Because if they're conducting studies and and they're showing that when people find people attractive, they associate that with trust. Why is it that somebody can change their appearance and associate something with trust? So it's more so like why are humans so focused on the glitz and glam? Why do they feel like the glitz and glam is a better situation or a better avenue versus a regular person?

SPEAKER_07

Comfort, comfort zone and hyping. Just comfort zone and hyping. Something pretty, I like pretty things. So pretty things put me in my natural state. Hold on, wait a minute. There's some pretty shit around. Now I'm now I'm in my natural state. There's some ugly shit around. Now I'm uncomfortable. Understand that. You did what I'm saying, but that's person dependent. That's what I'm answering your question. No, I'm not. That's yeah, you feel me? That's person dependent. So the pretty shit might put a person, and then some ugly shit might put some other people in their motherfucking zone. You oh my bad. Can I cut? Am I straight on? All right, bear. You feel me? So some ugly shit might put somebody else in their zone. And that's why I also say deception is real. These are all the reasons that are associated with trust, right? You done got deceived into trusting somebody, right? You feel me? But then hold up, wait a minute. I'm around some pretty shit. Now I'm in my natural state. So now I'm just natural flow. Now I'm in flow state. You dig what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Thank you.

SPEAKER_07

So that's to answer your question. It's several, it's several different levels to it. You know what I'm saying? Pick your one. Either you getting deceived, or either you're in your natural state. Or either your comfort zone had you know what I'm saying? Your diamonds is off, your makeup is off, your hair, you feel me, your bonnet on. You dig what I'm saying? I got my toes out now. You feel me? It's one of the two. So that's to end. Does that answer your question?

SPEAKER_04

Did that yeah, it was given, it was given your perspective. That's what I asked for.

SPEAKER_02

Go ahead, diamond. Okay, I feel like to really answer your question, I feel like the beauty standards in our society. Thank you. I was waiting for the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our beauty standards have taught us to just like looking good is we supposed to lean towards that. Like people that look bad, we think more so oh poor, or like we think they're more like hobos, homeless people. You know what I'm saying? Not even just like, because ugly is really not just their face. It's everything on them, is also their it's yeah, it's their aura, it's everything. Like, so it's just like because America is like they kind of make the ugly stay in the shadows. I mean, you need to look good in order to be okay in society. That's what we're taught.

SPEAKER_04

If you if you even think about the media, when you have people that are given the news, are they not like the attractive person on the news? How often do you see somebody looking crazy telling the news? Or in movies. Most of the time when it when it's somebody, and I'm only gonna use criminal minds as an example. Most of the time when I watch in criminal minds, the the criminal is somebody that's crazy, living in their house with their granny that's been dead for 20 years. You get what I'm saying? Like, the media is pushing that on us. Like, if this person looks a little bit different, you can't trust them. But if they look like this and they're clean cut, we want to trust them. That's the problem. Yeah, thank you. Anyone else before I close it

Triggered Wrap And Final Message

SPEAKER_04

out? Close it out. Perfect. Listen, again, my name is Lex rated. Rated. Right switch. I know them niggas got triggered. Right, left, upside down, diagnosed.

SPEAKER_11

All of that.

SPEAKER_04

Lex rated, and this was triggered. I hope y'all enjoyed it. And if you are triggered at the end of this conversation, I did my job.

SPEAKER_09

Shout out to all the ugly bitches. I don't got no segment.

Pot And Bar Word Of The Week

SPEAKER_04

Yes, you do. No. What you doing?

SPEAKER_09

Doing pot and bar, fucking me.

SPEAKER_04

Are you gonna do it from your seat?

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to my girl Jasmine. Jasmine the flower.

SPEAKER_02

Connecticut's finest, but now Charlotte's finest motherfucking flower child.

SPEAKER_11

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Just like the motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we missed your girl. She over there getting doled up for her birthday.

SPEAKER_11

I feel a little smart this week. Lex gave me one word of the week.

SPEAKER_05

The word. Yeah, repeat it.

SPEAKER_11

What'd you say? Herpidamor reference?

SPEAKER_02

She didn't say it right either time.

SPEAKER_11

She didn't get it right.

SPEAKER_04

Wow.

SPEAKER_11

Hermaphrodite.

SPEAKER_04

It could be high. Anyway, hermaphrodite. Does AI make a hey or a high sound? He said hermaphrodite. Hey? AI? It makes A.

unknown

Like hay.

SPEAKER_04

It depends on the. That's what I thought. So I thought I was pronouncing it right.

SPEAKER_11

She was saying her. Like her name. I didn't say I didn't say. You were saying harm. You were saying harm.

SPEAKER_04

I didn't say her not once. You said harm. She was barely, you was barely listening.

SPEAKER_11

Are you admitting you said harm or not?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_11

Alright, that's cap.

SPEAKER_04

You was barely listening.

SPEAKER_11

You said after this fifth attempt, I gave up on on you getting it right.

SPEAKER_04

I was trying to pronounce it so that somebody could at least look it up. It is 11:30. I get it.

SPEAKER_11

You should have just spelled it out. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_04

I could have spelled it out, but how was that gonna help anybody?

SPEAKER_11

Sounding enough.

unknown

I really like it.

SPEAKER_04

So she sounded like me tonight.

SPEAKER_11

She's not taking accountability. That's not like her.

Freestyle Performance And Crowd Reactions

SPEAKER_11

I just wrote this. I'm coming here if you can't rap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Alright. I'm a pimp, I love them hoes. Throw them bows going front me. Matter of fact, I'm COD. Got my own money with me, babe. PH balance smell like she's stuck on her bulls up a pussy. Confit, mix hot. Call her with this pussy, bitch. Dark. Don't be loans, maritized like a bookie. No remorse for a bookie. He can fill with a filly. Grind 360 vibe like I should be. I'm not cool with having a light, yeah. I ain't woody. My man, me and my bitch kids feel like they're playing 50. Right, squitty, I think more than hoodie. And no, I don't care if it's rookie. My tongue like the lime over blade. If it's whiskey, read the roll, read a book, beat. Life ain't perfect, but it ain't badass. It's good beat. We roll with the tape. Thursday, I'm at OVA. Hope I run into a bad bitch, so we can poker gate. Low it dash, I don't debate bitch and bitch you wait. Ripley nigga, first time I switched in the grape. More vocal, don't fall with the rape. Black flag for he ain't a float. 22 G's, that's the road flip. Black nigga is the flow.

SPEAKER_11

Hot a bar to your type video.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, look at that box, look at the nigga won't. If I call you brother, what it's my mom with your mind. Look at what's in the bond. Look at the mind. With the spot for the countdown. On the pride, real man of rest. Look at what message is pile. Up side down. Stay the mic out like I want to find the myself. Drop somebody come to my house?

SPEAKER_04

And that was part of the time. You don't gotta get the fuck out of here, but let's get going. You can't rap, don't come on that shit on my mind.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, go sit down.

SPEAKER_04

If you can't read, don't come on either. Oh wow. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03

That's a whole nother level right there. Damn.

SPEAKER_11

You throwing a shot at yourself? Like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_04

What? Not the right dog. Close it out, Des.

Good Nights And Final Plugs

SPEAKER_04

It's your girl, Nola Des. Lex rated. Crazy Nine. Click. Hold on. Thank y'all. Cause why she said crazy not so bland, like she's not crazy. Start over. It's your girl, no Ladess.

SPEAKER_11

I'm gonna do a G-spine.

SPEAKER_04

And it's Lex rated. Good night, y'all. It's your girl crazy now. Also, just just nine. There we go. Great nine. There we go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

It's the gynecologist.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you for everybody in the audience for coming. Thank you for the uh the interview with actors. Thanks tonight. It was amazing. What was could what was the um the uh day for a show? Oh my god. July 15th, July 15th, first summer, beat up, beat up and just beat it. Bye.

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