From Brooklyn And Harlem To Raleigh: Shyst Vader’s Path To EMG

One minute we’re talking bars, battle rap, and building a real fanbase, and the next we’re unpacking why the internet seems to reward outrage more than growth. That’s the energy of No Advisory, and this conversation with Shays Vader is a perfect example of how music, mindset, and culture collide in 2026. 

We get into Shays Vader’s journey from being born in Brooklyn and growing up in Harlem to being raised in Raleigh, North Carolina and how those three worlds shaped his sound, his work ethic, and his identity. He breaks down the “legendary rookie” mentality, why staying hungry matters more than chasing hype, and how his path through battle rap and the URL universe helped him learn the system. We also talk real music industry business: rollouts, relationships, creative control, and what it’s like holding your weight alongside established names while still protecting your own lane. 

Then we switch gears into the wild side of the show: headline breakdowns, a heated self-defense debate, and a scenario that instantly tells you whether your relationship has respect or just benefits. Lex Rated also brings the psychology bag with a deep dive into victimhood, accountability, “secondary gain,” externalization, and how social media algorithms push people toward performing pain instead of doing the work to heal. 

If you care about hip hop culture, independent artist strategy, owning your career, and honest conversations about how people move online and in real life, this one’s for you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who argues in the comments, and leave a review with the biggest takeaway you’re stealing from this episode.

Transcript

No Advisory Introductions

SPEAKER_03 0:00

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SPEAKER_11 0:36

Your boy, C.O. McLeod.

SPEAKER_03 0:38

And it's your girl, Nola Des. Hey, what's up, freaks and geeks? It's Lex Rated. This was JC though.

SPEAKER_07 0:44

This watch nigga, more places in a second. I'm cabinet on that one right away.

SPEAKER_11 0:48

You know what it is, man. No Bossi Podcast. Hey, shout out to my girl Jasmine like the flower. She's handling uh kid duties today. So she will not be with us today. So we're gonna get the duty. You know what I mean? And if you don't know, nigga. Jasmine like the flower.

SPEAKER_07 1:06

Shout out to uh shout out to the buckethead. Buy a buckethead. Oh to the buckethead, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:15

Yeah, you know we can't give her a compliment because you can't see it.

SPEAKER_03 1:21

That's it.

SPEAKER_11 1:21

You should never give it a compliment. She's gonna take it all over the board. We're

Meet Shays Vader And Roots

SPEAKER_11 2:42

gonna ask you three simple questions, Shanny's three simple questions. Are you ready? Let's go, let's go. We're gonna ask you who you are, where you from, what did you do and what the fuck you do? Listen, listen. Jesus. I see what you're dealing with now, Alex. Stay over there, stay over there, don't come sit next to me no more. Who you are, where you from, and what the fuck?

SPEAKER_10 3:24

Raleigh, North Carolina. And I'm taking it storm country by country, global time. EMG, we here, reshaping the culture, baby.

SPEAKER_11 3:34

Absolutely. Carolina. Huh? Uh oh, okay. You alright. God damn. Okay, okay. Are we good? Like alright. No more interruptions. Okay, stay out the red. Stay out the red. Okay. Alright. Shy's Vader. You say you're from Riley, North Carolina. Oh, you grew up in Harlem, right? Born in Harlem?

SPEAKER_10 3:59

I was born in Brooklyn. Brooklyn? Brooklyn. Grew up in Harlem. Yeah. Yeah. I was born in Cornell Island. Alright, I got to go. I was born in Kings County, but I grew up in Cornell Island. Moved to Taft from Harlem. Shout out to Taft and Forster.

SPEAKER_07 4:16

You was born in Kings County. Yeah, yeah. So you technically from Flatbush on a low. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 4:21

Oh, you were born in Kings County.

SPEAKER_07 4:23

Oh, that's a Kings County baby too. I know about that.

SPEAKER_11 4:26

Yeah. Because I grew up in um Park Avenue over there, Kings County. Like, yo, bruh. Okay. That's the hospital you do not want to go to. Everybody still. You die in there, Shy.

SPEAKER_10 4:39

We survived though. We listen. They breed in superstars. No, man.

SPEAKER_07 4:43

A lot of niggas came out of Kings County.

SPEAKER_10 4:45

Yeah. Kings County ain't no.

SPEAKER_11 4:49

Yeah, for y'all niggas in Brooklyn that know about Kings County. If you had anybody, friend, family member, dog, anybody, pet, whatever that went in Kings County, rest, rest, rest, rest, rest. Hope. Because niggas don't make it out of the county of Kings. It's dangerous over there.

SPEAKER_10 5:05

I was raised in Wake County, the county of Ways Valley, North Carolina. You're hearing me.

SPEAKER_11 5:10

So, like how, you know, from those, because those are three different cultures, you know, Brooklyn, Harlem, and Riley, man. So how did that um cultivate your sound today?

SPEAKER_10 5:18

I think it gave me an advantage because I was able to live both sides, both worlds. Like you said, it's two totally different worlds, but we all do the same thing. So it helped my flow. It kind of uh twisted my accent, but you know, I go up top, they say I sound country. That's how they do it. That's how they do it. You know, I think it gave me advantage. Like it everything about it helped.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

You feel me?

SPEAKER_07 5:41

When you when you go up there for like a week or two, do you get your accent back? Like, you know it. Yeah, yeah, fact, fact, fact.

SPEAKER_10 5:47

You know it as soon as you as soon as you cross the bridge. I'm telling you. It's just tied back into that shit. That's facts. Automatic.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

It's the for people that are just discovering you, who are you outside of music?

SPEAKER_10 6:00

Father first. You feel me? Father first. I was a dream chaser and then decided to become the dream. And then once I made that decision, everything started falling in my lap. You know what I'm saying? Respectfully.

SPEAKER_11 6:15

Respectfully. Right. How many kids? Two. Two. Boy, girls, girl, boy, boy, boy. Shout out to the gym.

SPEAKER_03 6:25

I need one more.

SPEAKER_11 6:26

Nah, he's done.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

No, hell no. I said I just need one more. I don't want to wanna girl.

Rapid Fire Hip Hop Picks

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Nope. Anyways, I have some rapid fire questions that I want to ask you to kind of get to know you a little bit more. The first one, Jay-Z or Nas. Oh rapid. One.

SPEAKER_10 6:45

I can't pick. They they I I I look at them both the same.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Boom bap or drill.

SPEAKER_10 6:52

Boom bap.

SPEAKER_03 6:53

G unit or dipset.

SPEAKER_10 6:55

These these questions. When you say boom bap and drill. If I'm riding, I'm up to some shit I don't need to be doing, then of course I'm drilling. If I'm trying to get my mom right, I'm trying to tell me trying to write that boom bap. So it all depends on the situation. But I got you. Let's keep going.

SPEAKER_03 7:10

G unit or dipset. You skipped.

SPEAKER_10 7:14

Dip set, okay. Jordan's or uptowns. Oh shit. Jordans are what? Uptowns. Uptowns. Uptown, baby.

SPEAKER_03 7:21

Favorite borough to shop in.

SPEAKER_10 7:24

Favorite borough to shop in? Uh Queens.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Queens? Q U, what up?

SPEAKER_10 7:30

Queens. Queens. Queens? Queens got the furs. Queens got the leathers.

SPEAKER_09 7:34

Oh, Brooklyn got some of them shit.

SPEAKER_10 7:36

Not for the prices Queens got. Oh yeah. Okay. Price and why you got that. You got that.

SPEAKER_11 7:40

You got that.

SPEAKER_10 7:41

Okay, so for real, Jersey, to be a Newark killing all them.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Newark for a row? I've brought that.

SPEAKER_10 7:47

Newark on the low, got it.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

So what's the favorite favorite? Go ahead, say it for me, Switch. A row. To go on a date in.

SPEAKER_10 7:54

Favorite borough to go on a date in? Brooklyn, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 7:58

Manhattan? Yeah, of course. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got the best.

SPEAKER_10 8:03

The best restaurants. All that rooftop ads.

SPEAKER_11 8:05

See, Shy said that because of the views and shit.

SPEAKER_10 8:07

It's just the views?

SPEAKER_11 8:08

But you can see that on Brooklyn. Go take her to the Brooklyn Bridge. You're right. Right on the Brooklyn Bridge. See all that shit. That's new though. Have at it. Oh, that's new. You could bring her in the day. Back in the day was it there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 8:21

Uh you could bring a North Carolina bitch to Brownsville. She's gonna be happy. I ain't gonna lie. Don't go carolina. I ain't from here.

SPEAKER_03 8:29

I ain't from real. So you said that you were born in New York but raised in North Carolina. When you think about home, which shitty I said shitty, which city shows up in your music the most?

SPEAKER_10 8:43

Um I would say both, but more of course, Riley, North Carolina. Carolina, of course, because I was here the longest. You know, this where this way everything turned upside down, this where I caught my charges at, this way I learned the streets, this way everything got well things got wicked up there, then that's why I came down here. You feel what I'm saying? So you know, so learning, living, becoming a father, all that, all that happened down here. So it's Riley, North Carolina all day. But I would never forget my found New York Foundation. You feel what I'm saying? It's impossible. Impossible.

SPEAKER_03 9:18

It's hot in y'all.

SPEAKER_10 9:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

You never forget. Yeah. So one more question. Well, not one more question, but another question before somebody else goes. You call yourself the legendary rookie, right?

SPEAKER_10 9:31

Um, a writer called me that and it just stuck with him. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 9:34

What's something you had to unlearn from being a veteran in order to think like a rookie again?

SPEAKER_10 9:42

Keep the hunger, uh, never get satisfied. Um always make making sure that I progress further than the previous year. You know, um, always keeping my kids on my mind, my mother on top of my mom, my father, my brothers. Keeping them on my brain consistently makes me work super hard. And and and, you know, everybody get into them give up modes, but mine's just few. Like I don't get into that mode because I'm always activated. Uh giving up to me was never an option. I was one of them guys that chased uh chasing my career. It was like, when. I never thought if. I never was like, damn, I wonder if this gonna happen. You feel what I'm saying? It was always like, all right, it's gonna happen, but when, so be patient.

SPEAKER_11 10:26

Alright.

SPEAKER_10 10:27

Keep it being patient, it's gonna happen. And it did, it's happening right now. It's happening.

From Group To Solo Grind

SPEAKER_11 10:34

Now I want to go back like to the earlier days, right? Um I I if I read correctly, you was in a group part of a group called Ike and Shice.

SPEAKER_10 10:42

Yes, right. That's my brother Ike.

SPEAKER_11 10:44

Absolutely. So, like, how did that transition um occur for you from going from the group to you transitioning into a solo artist?

SPEAKER_10 10:54

It was dope because it was like a mutual decision between me and him to start on solo projects. So it wasn't like a a split up to where like we fell out of something like that. You feel what I'm saying? So it was a mutual, he was working on a solo project. I started working on a solo project. And then the label we was on, I got kicked off that label because they said I was uh wild and gang banging and kept catching charges and shit like that. It was just too consistent with the uh street shit in their eyes, you know what I mean? So I left them and just started, you know, doing things on my own, you know what I mean? And everything was panning out. Me and uh my brother Smack, we was taking me all around the country with him, uh with the URL battles and um along that process working with T Top and doing music with T Top and just learning the system, uh club promoting and and uh continuously doing music, and then I end up doing the Project with Knife Wonder.

SPEAKER_08 11:47

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_10 11:47

Yep. That project caught the eyes of EMG. EMG uh gave me a test run when we did the Akon record, the Jim Jones record, and uh 38 record, and then they signed me. Up ever since.

SPEAKER_11 12:01

I was gonna talk, I was gonna mention that too about the battle rap, because I'm a heavy battle rap fan. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_10 12:07

So listen to the whole URL TV fan.

SPEAKER_11 12:09

Whole URL. So how did that come about? Because

Battle Rap Road To URL

SPEAKER_11 12:12

that was where like you kind of paved your way through the battle rap lane, then you made your ranks up. So tell the people how did you get into the battle rapping?

SPEAKER_10 12:21

Well, um, it was a league in Raleigh, North Carolina, and Rocky Mount called RBC. RBC. He's still out too. Yeah, yeah. So the homie C dub. And he asked me to um partner with him, and we started partnering up with a couple of battles. And it just so happened that Smack seen one of the battles on YouTube and hit C Double, like, yo, who do your camera work? He was like me. Um changed contacts. Long story short, Smack hit us up one time out the balloons, like, yo, I need a cameraman uh down at uh in Atlanta for the BT Awards. Uh can you make it down here? I'm gorilla filming. He was uh road manager for French Montana at the time. So um my homie C Double was like, yo, Shays, I need to get to Atlanta, blah, blah, blah. I'm lit. I'm like, I'm driving, get in, let's go, we out. So I was the driver, the cameraman. We got up with Smack, and he just so happened to be with my homie Rain. Shout out to Rain 910. So Rain was with Beasley, I was with Smack. We linked up, and it was just a family instantly. Like, it was an instant connection. So uh we ran the town out there, and from that day forward, which was like what, 13, 14 years ago, it we connected ever since. You know what I'm saying? That's dope.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Who's your favorite battle rapper?

SPEAKER_10 13:36

Bias, of course, I'm gonna say T Top. Of course I'm gonna say Briz Ralstein, because them the guys who we all entered that URL family together at the same time. That's lit. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:45

That's lit.

SPEAKER_10 13:46

Cause they was battling on the RBC. So when Smack was like, who the top gunners at the league? We was sent Briz, T Top, you know what I mean, and um another guy named R. Hood and Billy Dutch. Like, we was like, these the guys. And T Top and Briz Rostin took it all the way to the top. You feel me? He really did.

SPEAKER_07 14:05

Another Briz Rostein battle.

SPEAKER_10 14:07

Yeah, he just won a hundred thousand. So, you know what I mean? He he get the right, he get the right investor and the right battle. It's only one person he really wants to battle. So that's Mook, you know it. So it's hard to get him that ain't gonna get that one. I ain't gonna be able to do that. Nah, Mook moved on from that. You know what I'm saying? So that situation has kind of moved on. So I mean, I know Mook loves money too, but yeah, some things are just like, I don't know. I can't speak for them, but I would love to see it. You feel me?

SPEAKER_07 14:33

That'd be one of the biggest battles in a long, long time. But we waiting on it, we're waiting too long for Smack not trying to get them bags up no more, man.

SPEAKER_10 14:40

Nah, Smack, Smack, Smack got the bag. He's gonna he he he's responsible for a lot of these guys' careers. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, the reason why battle rappers was able to get four rappers outside four battle. I watch a lot of them on one card. Three people make 40,000 apiece and the undercards make it 10,000. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_07 14:58

But the thing about it is it's like motherfuckers see they'll see a load of Lux and Moot get a big bag and then they start feeling entitled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's what that's what fuck it up for everybody.

SPEAKER_10 15:08

The uh pocket watching it, yeah, pocket counting and all that.

SPEAKER_07 15:11

I know he got it, but he like, I ain't finna give it to niggas trying to like strong army out my bed, nigga.

SPEAKER_10 15:17

He always showed love to the loyal ones, the ones that's gonna always rock out. You know what I mean? Salute to them. And I don't never knock the other rappers for for going to and get their own leagues and doing their own thing. Right. He got his own league. Yeah, shout out to T Top.

SPEAKER_07 15:30

Shout out to T Top, shout out to Street Wars, drop. I'm the I'm the best better rapper alive. I just want you to know I'm gonna put that. Uh-oh, uh uh. There's nobody out there that could fuck in life, breathing alive right now. Oh, he sounds serious. Real life. Nah, Switch get busy. Oh, you get busy. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:43

Not after you did that, other boy, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 15:45

Uh-oh. Yeah, Switch get busy. Y'all gotta put me on. Y'all gotta put me on.

SPEAKER_07 15:48

Yeah, I'm gonna send you some trips. I don't know. Who drink is that? Right, she had a cut the other day. Body good. Body good. Say yo!

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Uh uh.

SPEAKER_07 15:59

I'm just playing.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

Goodbye. So I've

Working With Rap Legends

SPEAKER_03 16:04

seen you worked with artists like Waka Flacca, Jim Jones, Ray Kwan, and so much more. So, which collaborations surprised you the most and how was I working with that uh that single individual?

SPEAKER_11 16:16

It was before you answer that though, that that fucking uh I think it was the second song or the third song on the on the um compilation with you and Ray. Yeah, the second song. Yeah, that shit.

SPEAKER_10 16:26

That's my guy. Salute to Ray Corps. I just to the Wu Sang for uh helping the Knicks win yesterday. Yeah, I just had to kill the half.

SPEAKER_11 16:34

As it was on. My bad. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_10 16:37

I I like all the collabos though, uh, evenly, and it was all a surprise because like I said, they was back to back. Salute to EMG the label for uh even believing me, believing in me to get on the tracks and hold my weight with those legends. You feel what I'm saying? So it was like you get the phone call, and it's like oh today you're doing a song with uh Acorn produced by Dr. Dre. Then two, three weeks later, I need you to get on this joint with Jim Jones, and then boom, 38 Special, then Waka Flocca, then Ghost Face, then Ray Korn, then Max B. Legends, then Memphis Bleak, then Ghostface. You feel what I'm saying? Right. And then it's recycling again. Me and Davies was just in the studio the other day. Yeah, we just dropped the bangers produced by Rockwaller. Yeah, yeah. You working, bro. On Saturday, me and 38 Special just dropped, uh, recorded a song and shot the video the next day.

SPEAKER_07 17:26

Absolutely. So you working with rapper rappers.

SPEAKER_10 17:29

Like you just legends, legends, legends.

SPEAKER_07 17:31

You like to rap, you don't want to hear no no.

SPEAKER_10 17:33

These are actually people I grew up listening to. Okay, okay, okay. And then getting their co-signed letting me know that I'm doing my thing. Well, I know, I know. Because it could just be a bag then where they're just doing the song because the opportunity is there, but now it's different. We vibe and we create it, and they and they rocking with it, nigga. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 17:53

Let's talk about EMG for a minute, right? Because it's um you, I think it's Jim Jones on there, Fab on there. Um, who else is on there, if I'm not mistaken? Um, huh? Somebody said something. Oh. But just you being amongst those pioneers and legends in the game, like, do you ever feel intimidated or you feel like, yo, I belong amongst these guys on this label?

SPEAKER_10 18:18

Um on the project, I just feel like I belong there because, first of all, I know all of them. You know what I'm saying? They're all my guys. I knew all of them previously besides Memphis Bleak. Um, but all of them and Conway, Conway the Machine. I have we about to get in the studio in a couple weeks. Shout out to Conway. Legend. Legend. Um but for most of the artists, I already knew them. So it was already an honor to be on the tracks with them and continuing to build the relationship we already had started building. You feel me?

SPEAKER_11 18:47

Absolutely. When I saw the roster, I was like, yeah, these these niggas is like heavy hitters, pioneers.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

That's all, yeah. They all on the same label, y'all on the same label or the same. No, no, no, no, no. Same album, same album, same album. Yeah, that's fire.

SPEAKER_11 18:58

But it's like these are heavy hitters, yeah. That's legendary. You know what I'm saying? Like guys that, and I because I'm I come from a cloth of bars. You know, I could appreciate, you know, lyricists and bars. You know, is there ever a moment where you got on a track of one of them and you heard their shit first, or vice versa, and it was like, shit, let me go back here and pin this again.

SPEAKER_10 19:20

Um, it's been times where I spit my verse, I haven't heard this, and I wasn't satisfied with what I did, and I wanted to redo it because I know I felt I could do better, but I never heard nobody's verse and then say, oh nah, he did better than me, let me change. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's real right. And then I always come at the song Um with a mentality like I can't let my family down, I can't let my label down, I can't let my city down, I can't let my set down. Like, it's so many people that's uh uh rooting for me and counting on me to win. I feel like God put me in here to to show the persistence and show the um determination. Like it put me as a poster boy for that, for a lot of my people that's that's watching, and I I just refuse to let them down. So I get I keep that mentality every time I get in the booth. And when I see yo, he always telling me, bite the cage, yo, stop playing, man. Yo, yo, yo, go crazy every time. So I make it a mission to try my best and put my best for four of their time.

unknown 20:12

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 20:14

Facts, facts. Shout my man Ski Money over there, man.

SPEAKER_10 20:18

Ski Money Playmaker.

SPEAKER_11 20:19

Like, that's my guy. Like, we go way back, like from I think we did like it was some big outside shit. I forgot hip hop event. The apple chair, we met out there, shit. Real genuine dude, good dude. Like, how did you and Ski first like build that relationship? How did y'all get involved?

Prison, Radio, And Real Allies

SPEAKER_10 20:37

It's crazy because I um I was in prison at Grand Corrections, right? And I got put in a hole for calling the uh I got put in a hole, right? So in the hole I only had a Bible and my walkman radio. You feel me? You said walkman? Yeah, I said I had the radio out, you know what I'm saying? I only had the little whip and the Bible. And I used to listen to Ski Money on 101.9, right, Ski? 101.9? So I'm like, he was the one playing the music that was getting me through because the crazy thing, I meant I skipped this part. I was only supposed to be in there for 24 hours. Uh-huh. So, you know, you do your tour. I'm like, I ain't done 24 hours. So after 24 hours, every sound you hear, you think they're coming to get you. So they had to get hold of me in there for 19 days. So for after that first day, after that, you know, for 19 days, every sound you hear, every minute, every hour, you think, oh, they're coming to go. And the only thing that saved me from going cuckoo was listening to Ski Money, playing crazy joints on the radio. I'm trying to write round, memorize, rounds by the song going and sharpening my skills. Cause I'm trying to memorize something for the song go off. I get mad if he cutting it too short. You know what I'm saying? But when I got out, I made sure that one of the first things I did was call the station and I hit him. He answered, I was like, Oh, Ske, the shades. He already was playing my records that I had with Ike, you know, singles and joints. But um I hit him and was like, yo, listen, I just got out of prison. I just want to thank you because you was DJing so crazy and playing joints that got me through it, kept my my sanity in there. So it was personal. So I hit him up. And we had to always have a relationship. You know, he was the DJ on the radio, so um I always kept that good relationship, and then we had a personal relationship after that. And then when he was already with EMG when um him and Pro Fluent was the ones that told EMG to look in my direction when they was ready to sign another artist. You feel me? I had did a song with five mics, and it was doing a lot of numbers, had started circulating. That's what caught their eye. And then when um he got dropped from the label, they was looking for another artist, and boom, I was right there. They pointed right in my direction. So I owed them forever.

SPEAKER_11 22:52

There you go. Gotta give the man the flowers while they still here. You know what I'm saying? Gotta give them their flowers, absolutely.

SPEAKER_10 23:03

One thing about but like Scheiße Vade is the artist, but it's still an entity because it's not just me, it's a whole machine behind it, and it won't it's not gonna work without everybody playing their part. And they they part of the they definitely big major part of what's going on right now. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

Speaking

Trends To Erase And Ownership

SPEAKER_03 23:22

of what's going on right now, what trend in hip hop would you erase if you could, like forever? Shit.

SPEAKER_10 23:32

The um tight ass jeans. Oh, see I don't I don't want to say it like that because I won't, you know, they they wildin' right now. I want to say the the the way they trying to snatch to each his own, but I don't like the way they trying to snatch the masculinity from the culture.

SPEAKER_08 23:54

And that's not saying nothing with their own agenda of what they want to do.

SPEAKER_10 23:58

But what I'm saying is don't force, uh don't strip it from from you know what I'm saying? Don't don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 24:08

Nah, you good, don't yeah, stop putting that boxy shit on motherfuckers. Yeah, fuck that nigga. No advisory, I don't play that shit.

SPEAKER_10 24:17

I don't, you know, you know. Outside of that, I don't I'm uh I would strip the copycat, the cosign and the copycat. Because I grew up, I grew up where in music, you got like it was negative to to the copycat. Like, no, it was frowned upon, like you had to be your own, you had to you had to do you. But now it's like a lot of labels are looking for the next now. Whoever's rocking now, whoever's the new now, if you sound like Lil Baby, you sound like Boss Mandilo, you sound like the new Dallas, you sound like Pooh Shy C. That's what they looking for. So now sometimes I might step foot in some of these showcases and it's 20 artists in there. And you don't if I close my eyes, you want you can't tell the difference. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Just listen, they all rap the same, it sounds the same, because they all chasing the same thing, which is the brainwasher making you think you have to be like the next dude who's already on, and they searching for that next one. And then you get caught up in the copycast. Some people make it, some people make it because you break through and you do you, but I just don't like the copycat. I like the originality because the people that was winning and continued to win was the original ones. Like, uh, I don't want to name because I'll keep going. But if you think about it with Ludacris and Nelly and Carol Rush, well, and I could go back to Carol, but then you skip the Nelly, the Jay-Z, the Nas. All of them sounded different. Kendrick, J. Cole. Everybody had their own, but you can hear them on the track and they come and you know exactly who that is. Buster ROM, um, um, I'm missing so many people. Two chains, so many people got the distinct, and they all win. Kanye, all these dudes are like winners for life. They all got hit records that's gonna play forever, and they good. Like when you even Will Smith, when you hear his voice, you know that's him on the track. Even if you don't like the verse, you you hear him, you know that's him. But I just don't like the copycat where you gotta turn on the radio and say, Who's this? I remember when Rich Homie Korn came out. I love this joint, but he sounded just like Future.

SPEAKER_08 26:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_10 26:10

But it took me a while to get into, but I saw listening like this nigga fire. You know what I mean? But he sounded just like Future, but it was accepted. Everybody accepted the copycat. If I can erase one thing, it'll be that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 26:21

I respect that. I love what everybody does, they thing. I don't hate on nothing.

SPEAKER_10 26:28

Nobody getting my way on getting yours, getting your music together. I'm I'm one of them.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

So if you had to choose between a Grammy, $10 million, or your own masters, which would you choose and why?

SPEAKER_10 26:39

You said $10 million, a Grammy or your own masters. Only your masters? Oh. Well, we do, I already do the masters thing. We already own our own masters. So that ain't that's that's that's let's close off the list. That ain't yeah, that's already crossed off the list. The Grammy or 10 million?

SPEAKER_02 27:02

Hey yo.

SPEAKER_10 27:03

I'm taking that 10 million because the 10 million is gonna help me get the Grammy. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 27:09

Like, yeah, yeah, Grammy you gotta pay for, that's facts.

SPEAKER_10 27:15

Yep. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, with all that 10 million.

unknown 27:21

That's the whole movement.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

You paying for the trophy, you paying for the trophy or you paying to win? Like, I need to ask my cousin this.

SPEAKER_10 27:28

And that is I'm gonna say like this. Give me the 10 million because if I get a Grammy, I want to earn it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. I take the money any day because my my my people can't. I can't 10 million, I can take care of so many of my people's. You know what I mean? College rent. Grammy ain't doing that. Can't eat no Grammy, can't drive no Grammy. You can drink out of it, you can drink out of it. Drink out of that, bitch. Put some break. Let me change some shit up. You know what I mean? That Grammy, I earned it with the music. If they'll if I get it, I get it. That's facts. We'll be nominated next year with the compilation for the fact.

SPEAKER_11 28:01

Yeah, because that shit is hard.

Rollouts, Work Ethic, Industry Life

SPEAKER_11 28:03

Before we get into that, I know you got the um single releasing June 19th. Let's give a round of applause for that. Uh changed July 10th. Oh, you changed the jump up.

SPEAKER_10 28:11

Yeah, for out the month, it's July 10th.

SPEAKER_11 28:13

Why you push the back?

SPEAKER_10 28:14

Salute the Revolt and 440 artists, EMG the table. They just doing a fantastic rollout.

SPEAKER_11 28:19

Why you push the back, though? I want to know. For the rollout, okay.

SPEAKER_10 28:22

You know, um, at this point in my career, I had to learn to, as an artist, when they believed in me to do my creative creativity and do my part, I gotta step back and let them do their part. I got it. You feel what I'm saying? I feel like they the geniuses on that level. I'm the genius on this level. We all make it work. You feel me?

SPEAKER_00 28:41

That's let me give a round applause for them.

SPEAKER_10 28:45

So if they say push back on question it, none of them I'm with it. Anything good, you know. Salute to them. You know, they I can't question it when the uh the house bigger, the car's faster. You know, for real.

SPEAKER_11 28:58

You know, the now, because you know, sometimes, right? You know, when somebody put the money into you, they feel like they want to control you creatively. Like, so how is the relationship there? Are you allowed to be as creative as you can be?

SPEAKER_10 29:10

Or yes, most definitely this would make it different than any situation I've ever been in because they believe in me. So they and they know I'm gonna get the job. Then the other day, uh Jeff said, Oh, Sice, can you send me about eight songs in uh by next Sunday? And I sent them 26 songs in 12 days. Shit. You feel me? So I wasn't bullshit. No, no, I'm not that bad. Not when they're taking care of me and holding it down and believing me like this. I want to show them that it's worth it. Right. So if he asks for eight, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to triple that. So that's facts. Yeah, yeah. I'm a workaholic too. So that's what kind of separate me from uh a lot because I'm not scared of hard work, I'm not scared to invest in myself, I'm not scared and invest in my people.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

So, what's your biggest industry pet peeve?

SPEAKER_10 29:58

Um, the sudden change, but I'm built for it. So the sudden change, how everything uh changed at the drop of a dump. You know, you can have a whole plan set for uh uh shoot this video this day or this studio session at this time, and then uh drop of a dime, everything changes just like that. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, it's a peppy, but I'm built for it.

SPEAKER_11 30:17

Okay. I got like an um off the top question, right? So if you had like one call, one call, who would you call? Who calling? Huh? Just say you had a somebody say, yo, I need you to make a call to save your life or something. Like just put some hypothetically on the shit.

SPEAKER_07 30:34

Like gun to the head and they gotta answer. You was all who to the head. If you was a who wants to be a billionaire.

SPEAKER_11 30:38

No, no, you know what? I got you. Because it's off the top. You had one call, say, like, yo, I need you to make a call right now to get a verse from such and such, from J. Cole, Drake, or Kendrick. And you gotta make one call. Who you calling?

SPEAKER_03 30:53

And that person's supposed to get the the verse.

SPEAKER_11 30:55

Yeah, they're gonna you you you trust them enough, they're gonna pick up the phone and give you that verse. Who you calling? That you wanna call.

SPEAKER_07 31:00

And who you gonna call and give you the hollow verse names you just said? J.

SPEAKER_11 31:03

Cole, Kendrick, or um, or um Drake. And can be go cool. Oh, in Canada.

SPEAKER_09 31:15

What if you don't pick up? Drake. Oh, this nigga Cole let me down. Fuck!

SPEAKER_07 31:26

Who is your favorite like rapper, like bar for bar punch, punch-wise, uh music making wise, cadence, all of that, like lyricism? Performance. All in one. Damn. I know it's hard to pick from. You can even if you want to just pick for right now.

SPEAKER_10 31:41

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 31:42

You can pick me. I rap last week. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_10 31:47

That's a hard one. I don't got a favorite. I listen to a lot because everybody gives different vibes. So certain people I listen to in a different vibe. If I want to um like hear some lyrical, I might throw on um like 38 ransom, Griselda. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 32:05

Aye, boob, boob, boob, aye, boob. I thought I'd be the cut short, part of me. Who your favorite outgrizelda? Because I bumped Griselda religiously.

SPEAKER_10 32:11

Yeah, shot Griselda's tough. Uh if you including 38 in that group, 38, if you're not including 38, then Conway.

SPEAKER_06 32:19

Why 38 run around like he better than Jada Kiss? See, why he's disrespecting. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_10 32:23

He never said he better than Jada Kiss.

SPEAKER_07 32:28

38 fire. He fired, but he fired the Jada. Jada never had a whack verse his whole life.

SPEAKER_10 32:34

Never, never. Jada never. I never heard a whack verse. Jada ever, ever. And I don't think um 38 was insulting him. I think he was just saying he's trying to get him on a lyrical. You know what I mean? Uh-oh. And then what he's saying was true. He was reaching out and he felt like, you know, he wasn't responding back.

SPEAKER_07 32:53

So I think Boldie the best out of Grizzella. I'm not even gonna lie. Boldie. Oh, I forgot Boldie was with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 32:58

Boldie fire. Boldie fire.

SPEAKER_11 33:01

So I'm gonna build the artist, right? Let's build the artists right quick. Build the artists, three artists that you could build your perfect artists. Who would those three artists be?

SPEAKER_10 33:12

Um I'll say have the uh the pizzazz on the track of Drake, okay, the uh lyrical stability of Naz and the crowd control of Buster Rhaps.

SPEAKER_11 33:42

I like the description. I like that. That's tough. I think that was the best one I heard so far. Yeah, that was the best one I heard. Because yo, people underrate.

SPEAKER_09 33:54

You said uh Samuel Drake, you said the lyrics is a Nas.

SPEAKER_11 33:58

Then you said the crowd control of Buster. But that's fire. That's fire.

SPEAKER_03 34:05

Nas' performance is.

SPEAKER_11 34:06

I think he said Nas lyrics, Drake's Pizzazz and Buster showman shit. Like, yeah, that's tough. Because people don't give Bus a lot of credit, but it shows like he's the ultimate.

SPEAKER_10 34:17

He's the one, he's the ultimate energy for sure. Absolutely.

Reshaping Culture And Legacy Thinking

SPEAKER_10 34:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 34:22

Well, I have a question about a quote that I heard you uh use once. It was um, we're here to shape culture, not to be shaped by culture.

SPEAKER_10 34:31

Yes, can you explain what that is?

SPEAKER_03 34:33

That's fire.

SPEAKER_10 34:34

We're here to reshape the culture, not be shaped by the culture. That um reshaping the culture started with a conversation between me and the CEO Jeff of EMG, and I was on the phone with ProFlu and Ski Money, and he said, uh, he said, Shays, this is before we started the album. This one we just doing random songs. And he was like, Every song we do from now on, I wanted to try to reshape the culture. I said, What you say? He was like, I wanted to try to reshape the. I said, We're gonna use it. I want to imprint that we this is the mission right here. The whole mission is to reshape the culture. We end up naming the album that. And we when I say we don't want to be shaped by the culture is what I was referring to earlier, where I don't want to fall in to what the uh normal is. I want to stand out, you know, what's the point of you know trying to fit in when you can stand up? Stand out, don't fit in. Yeah, the the standouts always make more money, always last longer.

SPEAKER_03 35:27

So if the culture completely ignored everything you created for the next 10 years, would you still rap? And why?

SPEAKER_10 35:34

Say that one more time.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

If the culture completely ignored everything you created for the next 10 years, like everything you create for the next 10 years, they ignored it. Would you still create music?

SPEAKER_10 35:48

Yeah, because they was ignoring it before, and like I I continue, it's in me. So, and that's not saying, you know, this ain't the only form of income or life. You feel me? So it's always gonna be in me, whether it's making money like it is now or not. You feel me? Is I'm always gonna do music, I'm always gonna be attesting music forever to the day I die. So no matter what it is, I I got box trucks on the road. You feel me? So is money's always gonna be there. So and I think that's what made me fall in love with music with music more when I stopped relying on it to feed you, live to feed, and it was just personal and and I was just enjoying it, it became your legacy. It became more food food, became a legacy, you know? Started a legacy.

SPEAKER_11 36:33

I got a a one would you rather question Would you rather have a platinum record or a respected catalog? Why?

SPEAKER_10 36:49

Because a respected catalog could get you millions. You can sh tour the world and make millions without having a platinum record. Two chains did it before he became platinum, you know. A lot of people done it in uh Yo Gotti did it before he was platinum, uh Mozzie did it. Uh a lot of people done it, you know, that haven't gone platinum, but uh you cause sometimes it only take one song. You gotta them whoop there it is, nigga, could go right now and perform in Vegas. You feel me? Uh Yin Yang twins could go perform anyway. You you gotta have one, two, three, four songs and be lit. That's facts. It don't have to be platinum, you gotta have a core following. Don't gotta be platinum, but as long as you could get that bag and rock these shows, I'd rather that because it's the last longer than it's respected. It's your culture, it's your fans. You know, platinum record gets just you could hit the jackpot one time and then it's over. I'd rather have her respect the catalog because it's gonna last forever.

SPEAKER_11 37:46

Yeah. Like that girl, um, what's her name? I'm a fairy trash. Oh, did that go platinum? Huh?

SPEAKER_04 37:53

That went platinum? I don't know what the fuck it did.

SPEAKER_09 37:56

You gonna be throwing shade for nobody? I'm glad.

SPEAKER_03 38:03

She didn't do nothing to me.

SPEAKER_11 38:04

Yeah, she did do something to me. Now you heard a new song. Fucking song. Damn. God damn. That's retrash. My bad.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

So nowadays, TikTok and the internet is making everybody famous. With something on the internet that you, regardless of how much money it would make you, you would never do.

SPEAKER_10 38:26

I'm not doing nothing that my kids gonna frown upon me on. You know what I'm saying? I'm not selling my soul for no bread and have my kids looking at me crazy. You feel me?

SPEAKER_02 38:35

Looking at you crazy or embarrassed?

SPEAKER_10 38:37

Both.

SPEAKER_02 38:38

Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_10 38:38

You know what I'm saying? Both. Nah, I'm a father, man. I ain't doing no crazy stuff. Like, I'm too nice with what I do to have to do bugged out shit to get it back. You feel me? That dudes that be doing bugged out shit, they want to do that bugged out shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? I ain't I ain't bugging out for no brat.

SPEAKER_11 38:56

That's fact.

SPEAKER_10 38:57

Yeah, I think.

SPEAKER_11 39:02

Like, what is one piece of advice? Because you, you know, you have you have a story, you know, a tremendous story. So, what is one piece of advice that you could give to a young jit that's watching this or will watch it, and that's inspired by your come up and your success. What's that piece of advice that you could look into that camera and give that young man or one man?

SPEAKER_10 39:24

I'm gonna tell them the same thing Prodigy told me. He said, Patience, and it stuck with me forever. And uh two people told me this, Prodigy and DMX.

SPEAKER_11 39:33

Bless their souls.

SPEAKER_10 39:34

Patience, God bless the dead. Yo, they said you have to remain patient and believe in yourself more than everybody else around you. You know, um no matter how long it takes, no matter what, if you know what's gonna happen, gotta have patience and balance it with the persistence. You feel me? So just don't give up. A lot of people rush to success, and a lot of people they rush it because they spend a lot of time trying to um impress a lot of people that don't matter. You know what I'm saying? The ones that do matter, you need to focus on you ever see somebody make a post and be like, yo, why this person ain't sharing my stuff? But they never thank the people that do. Yeah, yeah. You you you don't they need to spend more time thanking the people that are liking it and the people that are sharing it and start worrying about the ones that don't. You know what I'm saying? The ones that don't, they not. They not leave the fuck, look where they be at. That's facts. Give the flowers to the ones that showing love, and then it'll make you at peace more. That's facts. You know what I'm saying? And that just comes with, you know, when you when you make it somewhere, do anything good. Some your friends, you go, well, I ain't gonna say your friends, close people or people you expect to support, support the least, but that's with any kind of success, that's life, you know. And and a lot of people gotta understand it early. It took me a long time to understand it. You know, but I understand it now.

SPEAKER_03 41:03

That's a word right there. Because the people that were the closest to them didn't support them, and they lost momentum saying, like, well shit, ain't nobody supporting me, so I'm not gonna be able to make it. At the end of the day, you can't expect people to support you. You still gotta keep going. Gotta keep going.

SPEAKER_10 41:22

The supporters gonna come as long as you're putting out good music. Good music don't lie. Good music don't lie. Good music don't lie. It's gonna be a fan somewhere. You just gotta reach them. You can't just sit on your head. People think a lot of things happen with a post. That's not, that's not, that's not gonna happen. I see some people drop an album, they post it one time, and then just wait for a miracle to happen. You gotta get your machine to get it. You gotta make moves, you gotta put push it, you gotta push it, push it, make plans, do rollouts. You gotta just you gotta make a mission to complete it. You feel me?

SPEAKER_08 41:53

That's absolutely fine.

Sponsor Break And House Banter

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SPEAKER_11 43:14

Got the bounce breakdown with. And Shay, feel free to chime in. You know, feel free to channel in, give you input. That's what we do.

SPEAKER_03 43:25

Somebody save me. Ain't nobody coming for you. Unless you're signing with them. All right.

SPEAKER_11 43:31

It gets hectic. It gets hectic, Chase. It does.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

I mean, I think. It's been a week.

SPEAKER_11 43:35

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 43:36

I'm using this for my sweating since we can't win it. Really? That's literally.

SPEAKER_11 43:42

Wait. Hold on. Let me start this over here. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

It's him.

SPEAKER_11 43:47

I'ma still use it though. Okay. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

Go ahead then. Okay.

Bounce Breakdown: Headlines And Hot Takes

SPEAKER_03 43:51

Okay. What's up, y'all? It is Nola Des, and we're about to bounce breakdown. We are back with the bounce breakdown, my bad. Where I'll talk about the drama, the news. In this fucked up world we live in. So my hot take of the week is for the those that are all bark and no bike, just listen to me right quick. Like zoom in, zoom in. And y'all know who y'all are. You cannot say that you are going to do such and such to someone, and when you see them, you don't do it. And I don't want to hear, oh, it's all about growth. It's all about growth. Because no, it's not. It should have been growth to you to keep it to yourself and not say you're gonna do something to someone.

SPEAKER_00 44:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

And just announce instead of announcing it, just stand on business. You know what I'm saying? Because I hate saying motherfuckers in public and don't do shit.

SPEAKER_11 44:34

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

And I don't want to hear that y'all sparing me because I'm smoke so small because y'all don't know what I'm capable of. Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 44:43

Like, what's going on right now? But they won't do an shot. But they say the term selling wolf tickets.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

I'm gonna have you slap somebody. Oh no, I gotta say a name. I'll say a name. I ain't never known. This is no advisory. No advisory.

SPEAKER_11 44:57

No, we're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 44:59

I'll say a name. I'll wait. But anyways, okay. So let me get started. Alright, so now before I start my breakdowns, let me just add that this week has been a motherfucking week, okay? And Juneteenth is next week. Shout out to the blacks, strictly for the niggas at the niggas. It has. It has. We need another whole month. Not even a day in a month. We need a two months. We got Black History Month. I said we need two months.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 45:28

We need two months. Alright. So to start off, did y'all hear about the white man in Georgia that opened fire at a black family union? Y'all heard about that?

SPEAKER_11 45:39

Uh no.

SPEAKER_03 45:39

No, okay, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. So a black family in Leesburg, Georgia, says a white man by the name of Jeffrey Tyler Kinzer allegedly drove past their family union while they were outside their home having fun with their family, yelling racial slurs, and proceeded to drive off. He then returned to their home wearing a body armor and caught carrying an AR-15 style rifle when he approached the family reunion. A family member stated on the news that they immediately began running and looking for cover with approximately 20 children and elderly relatives present at the reunion. So one family member, a Marine veteran, reportedly returned fire after seeing the suspect armed and coming towards the home to protect his family. Authorities say Kenzer was shot and later taken into custody. No family members were reported killed or injured. The Lee County Services Sheriff's Office initially described the incident as stemming from a verbal altercation, but the family said otherwise. They feel like they were targeted because they are black. The family are defending hate crime, demanding hate crime and additional charges to be pursued, but prof officials have confirmed that Kinzer is currently charged with aggravated assault and investigated. I say aggravated. I said that. You came close. I definitely said aggravated assault. I definitely said that. I'm just talking fast. God damn it. I said it though. Aggravated. Y'all know I talk fast. And investigators say more charges could be forthcoming. But it was the other way around. If it was the other way around, the black person will be automatically charged for so many charges. So do y'all believe this was racially motivated or something else?

SPEAKER_07 47:24

Yeah, they should have put his dick in the dirt. They should have stood over that nigga, took him out, coming to my family function, tweaking, and you got and you got a strap. Oh nah, you dead.

SPEAKER_03 47:34

He came back. First of all, he drove. He was calling them niggas and everything that he drove off. Then you come back.

SPEAKER_07 47:40

Chug got these motherfuckers wilding out. I just think when we get so nothing happened to him. The white boy. That was like nobody was.

SPEAKER_03 47:46

He's just in jail. He got charged with aggravated assault.

SPEAKER_11 47:50

Aggravated assault. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

That's it. They said charges are coming, but are they really? Nobody was shot? Him. He was shot. Who shot him? One of the fam members of some marine veterans. He had a gun. What would have happened to the family members? I mean, I don't. What state was it?

SPEAKER_11 48:10

Oh, it's in Georgia.

SPEAKER_03 48:11

Yeah, I don't know what uh Georgia's gun laws are, but.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

They should have stood over that nigga.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

Right.

SPEAKER_11 48:16

I mean, majority of these shits that we hear like this in these situations, nine out of ten times is a good one. Is it open charge?

unknown 48:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 48:22

Open Calvin in Georgia too, right? Yeah. Shout out to that family member, though. And was just walking up.

SPEAKER_07 48:28

You better have let off. Yeah. Somebody. Somebody. Sell butt. Alright, somebody else.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

Let that shit.

SPEAKER_06 48:39

Hell yeah. Free kill.

SPEAKER_03 48:41

Right. Definitely a free kill. Because you walked into my neighborhood. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 48:45

Free.

SPEAKER_03 48:45

Alright. So my next one's gonna be a little short, so I can get to what I really, really want to break down. Alright, so in Bridgerton, Missouri, a Mec Mac Allister's deli employee, Javon. I don't eat there, so I don't really care what it is. Wow. Try to correct it.

SPEAKER_05 49:03

Wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 49:04

Wow. I don't eat there. So I don't know. I thought that was somebody's name. I thought his name was Mac McAllister's though. Like, I thought it was a city. I'm so confused.

SPEAKER_07 49:12

I thought it was a city.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

I live. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_07 49:15

She said it like it was a city.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

I don't even eat there, so I don't care what it is.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yo. Anyways, the employee.

SPEAKER_07 49:22

Every week. Every week, nice.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

And you over there laughing. You don't practice with her before she walks in this bitch.

SPEAKER_11 49:28

No, she doesn't give me no insight. He ain't shit at all. She just, you know.

SPEAKER_03 49:32

He ain't shit, man.

SPEAKER_11 49:33

It's fun. I like it because when it gets to this, it's fun.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Go ahead, man. Go ahead, go. It's just crazy. Okay. Anyways. So Javon Mallory allegedly strangled a female coworker because she received a promotion that he wanted.

unknown 49:50

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 49:51

Oh my god. Emma Cowser?

SPEAKER_00 49:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

What?

SPEAKER_11 49:56

Yo. Bitch, this is my money, bitch.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

So, according to authorities, Javon allegedly went to the restaurant to confront the female employee after learning she had been selected for the promotion instead of him. Police said he locked himself inside an office with the woman and allegedly told her he was going to kill her. Investigators claimed the situation quickly turned violent. Court documents state that Javon allegedly grabbed the woman's neck with both hands and began strangling her. Authorities say the attack continued until the restaurant's general manager heard a commotion, unlocked the office door, and intervened. Police allege that after being questioned, Mallory admitted he was angry about not receiving the promotion and even said that he had gone to the restaurant intending to harm his coworker. Mallory has been charged with assaults and burglary and remains and burglary.

SPEAKER_07 50:55

You leaving letters out. You just missing like two letters. You right there. You missing two letters and you good.

SPEAKER_04 51:03

This shits me epic trap.

SPEAKER_07 51:07

I'm finna just chalk it up to your accent.

SPEAKER_03 51:11

So he remains in Custle on a 500,000 cash bond. And that man said that man said, if I can't have this promotion, you can't have that bitch either. Was he black? Yes.

SPEAKER_11 51:23

God damn.

SPEAKER_03 51:26

Oh, she was white? See, how come ain't nobody? How come ain't nobody saying nothing about him being racist? Don't choke the race. He just wanted his job. Oh my god. That's a nigga that don't give a fuck about love.

SPEAKER_07 51:44

He don't give a fuck about the movie. He don't give a fuck what happened in the two-head choke shit. Accepting the consequences before he did what he did.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

That's not nothing racist. Man, no, I'm gonna say if he would have been like, you white bitch, you'd you know how to say he probably had to.

SPEAKER_06 51:59

He knows he said that.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

He probably did. He said it in the middle.

SPEAKER_09 52:01

Two-handle, he said that.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

If he choked in the house, if he jokes out, shout out to him. He's saying fucking everything.

SPEAKER_11 52:12

Shout out to him. Fuck that. Because that's how a lot of uh minorities feel when you know the other side gets these promotions over them. And they a lot of times they be overqualified, you know, and they can do the job, but then here they come. So yo, he took one for the team, man. Shut up, shut up, man. He crashed. Yeah, he was supposed to, he crashed out, man.

SPEAKER_00 52:35

So you don't take the dollar or two dollars.

SPEAKER_11 52:39

What's his name?

SPEAKER_00 52:40

Javon Mallory.

SPEAKER_11 52:41

Javon, Javon Mallory. You are today's real MVP.

SPEAKER_05 52:45

But not really because you dunk the other day.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

He has a pass of strangling people. What are you strangling this white bitch for? But he went to prison before for strangling. So he he has a pass of strangling a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_07 52:58

That is what he does strangely.

SPEAKER_03 53:00

He just need to go to therapy at this point.

SPEAKER_07 53:03

He needs to be a fucking wrestler.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

He was charged. Yeah, he had a $500,000 bond.

SPEAKER_11 53:14

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 53:15

That ain't enough. In cash. That ain't enough. I'm afraid to get a promotion now. Leave him alone.

SPEAKER_11 53:21

No, you safe. You safe. You were safe. He he choked out the Becky's.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Nobody don't goddamn. He strangles the Becky's. That's crazy. Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_07 53:31

Free you, bro. He wondered why he ain't get promoted.

SPEAKER_02 53:33

No, he ain't getting no job. You have anger issues.

SPEAKER_11 53:38

You have anger issues. Leave my nigga alone, son. I ain't gonna get on him. Leave that nigga alone.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

Alright, so boom.

Texas Self-Defense Debate Gets Heated

SPEAKER_03 53:44

Let me start before I start. I want to say justice for my boy, Carmelo Anthony.

SPEAKER_11 53:49

Yes, Carmelo?

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Carmelo. Not the basketball player. Oh, I was about to say what's the same. Same shit I said. Same shit I said. He there was Anthony.

SPEAKER_07 53:57

Same shit I said. I seen uh something post about it, but I ain't I ain't read into it.

SPEAKER_03 54:02

But talking about shit. That shit pissed me off so bad. I've been on threads arguing with a whole bunch of white motherfuckers every day, all day.

SPEAKER_07 54:09

You're a Black Panther. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03 54:11

I am. I don't play about my community. Alright, so as y'all know, it has been seen online of the situation that happened in April 2025 when Carmelo Anthony, who's 19 years old, stabbed Austin McCalve, who was 17 years old. So the Collin County jury reached a verdict after deliberating for only three hours. Now Carmelo Anthony has been found guilty of murder for stabbing Austin to death during a high school track meet in Frisco, Texas. Carmelo was sentenced to 35 years in prison and would not be eligible for parole.

SPEAKER_02 54:43

Eligible.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

Eligible. Eligible. For parole until serving approximately enough is enough now. That's it. Shit. I wish I was going too fast.

SPEAKER_05 54:54

You saying the words in different orders.

SPEAKER_03 55:01

Logic. Okay, okay. I digress. Okay, okay, let me finish. Okay. Alright, so the defense argued self-defense, claiming Anthony feared his safety during a confrontation. Prosecutors argued the stabbing was an unjustified escalation after a dispute under a teen tent during a rain delay. To me, it was definitely self-defense. Carmelo went under the tent because it was raining. He knew someone in the tent named Eddie. And they sat for five minutes talking. Austin and his twin brother Hunter were allegedly looking for trouble and asked Carmelo, What are you doing in our tent? And asked him to leave at least 15 times. Austin started walking up to him, and Carmelo allegedly told Austin, as long as you don't touch me, we're cool. And Austin allegedly pushed him, and that's when Carmelo grabbed his blade that he got from Walmart for $13 to stab Austin in the chess. How many times? One time. It was one time. Even if so. That's why I asked.

SPEAKER_11 56:05

Now it's important to notice it was in Texas. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

You know, so there's also you can carry weapons. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 56:13

But they they're there stand your ground lore. There's little things that's uh written in there that kind of made Austin or convicted Carmelo based on. No, I mean that was a main part of it that, you know, we look at it, but by law, because the main thing is because he ran away, that was something that they looked at as far as the uh the legal stat what's what's it called? Statutation. What's the word? I don't want to fuck up the word. But I don't want to fuck up the word. But because of the legal um jargon that's in there, um, that's what they was looking at, you know, because it wasn't, because everybody feels like it was racially charged. It was definitely. Which it was, but on I'm gonna play the Lex advocate, but because of the legal jargon that's in there by Texas law, that's what convicted this young man for the 35 years.

SPEAKER_03 57:17

So fuck them lots. They go by what they want to go by, not the laws.

SPEAKER_11 57:20

Maybe so.

SPEAKER_03 57:23

Exactly. And the video not even out yet.

SPEAKER_02 57:25

Well, so it is a video, it is a video, but it only showed it in court.

SPEAKER_07 57:29

But the way they're making it sound, they making it sound like he's guilty. They're making it seem like, oh, you stabbed the nigga because he pushed you.

unknown 57:37

Right.

SPEAKER_07 57:38

And that's another thing that was like because it wasn't intimate, imminent.

SPEAKER_03 57:42

Yeah, because they just jumped down. The staff members said in the video, which I ain't gonna say that part yet. The staff members said in the video that he got jumped by four boys, which two of them were being the twins, Austin and and and Hunter. But they're not trying to put the courts of saying otherwise. The courts are saying that was not what happened. It's just he pushed him.

SPEAKER_10 58:01

That's probably what happened. That's why we haven't seen the video yet.

SPEAKER_03 58:04

Let's not forget that all 12 jurors are all the men are white, three Asian women. Not all of them. I say all the white all the men are white, three Asian women, one Middle Eastern woman, and one woman of color, but zero black jurors. You know what I'm saying? So this whole case is just not there.

SPEAKER_11 58:21

Go ahead, Lex. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 58:22

First of all, I'm I'm gonna just uh address a couple things. Yeah, the lawyer literally picks who they want on the fucking jewel. So if he did not pick people of a minority to be on his jewelry for his fucking whatever the fuck, that is his fault. Second of all, legal the lawyer's fault. Second of all, if somebody commits a crime in uh an open carry state and their life was not in immediate danger, meaning like you are afraid that in this moment of time you are going to lose your life, and you just so happen to use lethal force and that person dies, that is against the law in every fucking every fucking state that has open carry. So law alone, that is against the law. But it was self-defense. It it it can't it can't be self-defense. It can be self-defense if you look at it from this point of view and from that point of view, but somebody using lethal force can be pushed smaller than him, and then running away and bigger than him. You can't you can't defend that in a court of law.

SPEAKER_10 59:36

You can't defend that in a court of law. If he was getting jumped, that's different, but a one fight, you can't stab and kill a nigga that's just like.

SPEAKER_11 59:45

Well, they said they said that they that he did get jumped. There was a witness that said, Yeah, and then he got his twin brother, right?

SPEAKER_03 59:54

His twin brother not gonna jump in for him? He was scared for him. It was the same, it was the same day. It was the same day.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:04

Well, see, in the video, and because they said they had to zoom in on the video, so the video was real grainy. So they couldn't really decipher what's what is what, you know, so that was something that went against um, you know, the defendant, the the defendants in that case, because couldn't really see it. You know what I'm saying? But there was witnesses that corroborated that he did get jumped. Yo, he got jumped because of the third. Um, no, it was one guy that was, he was like a he we he put it on a video like social media, but he didn't testify.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:39

He didn't even justify for himself. And and he didn't forget to find him. Hold on.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:42

And to the to the black jurors, there was three black jurors that were selected, but they were teachers, educators, so they wasn't, they decided it's a conflict of interest, so we couldn't pick them.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:53

So uh did he have any like bruises or anything on the other?

SPEAKER_11 1:00:56

Yeah, like a black eye or something, something, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:58

So did they jump him after he stabbed him?

SPEAKER_11 1:01:00

No, they jumped him during the stabbing. They said it was during the stabbing. Yeah. I mean, it could go, you know, by surface value, we look at it and we see, you know, everything that came out, like, yo, he got jumped, he defended herself self-defense. But by law, yeah, the law wasn't on his side in that case. Wasn't on his side, and that's un fucking fortunate. That's what I said.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:22

The prosecutor said you don't have to meet Chev with stab, which that's true, but it's not true because George Zimmeran, Zimmerman, whatever the fuck his last name is, met disrespect with a gunshot, but he's walking around freely with his family. Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:37

So, exit the streets done.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:01:42

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:45

Did he stab somebody and the person died?

SPEAKER_11 1:01:48

Was it named Casey White? Yeah. I mean, we all know that race plays a factor in these shits, man. Let's go piss me off.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:59

I mean, these glue me in the weed.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:01

These this system back in whatever century you want to put it, was created against us. We we know that's a fact. This system was put in place for against us. You know, and as time went on, it was just you know, more and more cases come out where you put these cases side by side in similar fashions, and as always, uh this side of the skin have lesser sentences or harsh treatments than this side of the skin. You know, I mean, we're not gonna sit here and say that race is not a factor into a lot of these things. It is. But on the other flip side of that is the judicial system in a lot of these cases sometimes doesn't fare for this side of the skin. So that's all I'm gonna say about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

Yeah, but my boy Camelo is gonna end up getting justice because he deserves it, and his legal team has already filed an appeal arguing there's a significant legal issues that should be reviewed by higher courts. So we're gonna get you justice, my guy. We're gonna get you justice. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:11

Yeah. Just to be clear, he's still need to be getting through. He just talked about it. This is why y'all are out of your mind. Do you know how many people would just claim self-defense simply because you cannot just do that? I knew she was gonna piss me off. I just knew she was. You can't, you can't do whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:36

Why do you feel like you have the right to say how somebody should react to that?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:41

What I'm saying is black people are not gonna be able to do it. You do what the fuck you gotta do.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:47

That's two different things. You're black. Yeah, that's genetic. Two different things. One-on-one fight.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:54

He got that knife out. It took a fight. I am not saying this boy should not have defended himself. But if you take race out of this situation, somebody's child was killed. Okay. And the person that you but see, y'all, you say okay like that, but like if you were on the opposite end and Austin was fucking black and the other boy was white, y'all would have been pissed. No, it would still be the other way. Y'all would have the pissed.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:24

I'm literally, I don't have no race in it right now. I'm literally, I'm I'm literally speaking for like the the real world, the society I live in right now. If I if I walk up to somebody and hit them, I cannot be mad if they shoot me or stab me.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

You can't be mad, but we also can't be mad if you go to jail for it. I mean the law can't. I don't know. It's not a gun. You go you go through a process, you get a way, you get what I'm saying? Like, why do you have this knife and why are you ready to defend yourself like that? At some point, you was gonna kill somebody.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:59

No, that's not one of the niggas do that. My son carries a pocket knife.

unknown 1:05:08

Yeah, he had a pocket knife.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

Why do you have a knife at some point? No, you probably want to get a kid.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:14

Bro, we're not gonna do that, Seth. In a court of law, would you say? He's talking about a court of law. You say in the court of law.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:20

Like, I have a pistol, you have pistols, we have pistols, we have weapons to protect ourselves in in this time. Any event that we have to protect ourselves, we have to use our weapon. My son carry a pocket knife, and I tell him, carry your pocket knife, because if you have to defend yourself, use that shit. So we're not gonna sit there and say, oh, because he has a pocket knife that he was going his attempt with to kill somebody. No, he's not gonna sit there and say no, okay, that's what you were implying. But that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:45

No, but you're gonna wake up.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:48

That's why black people need to learn the fucking laws in a state that they live in. You need to learn the laws in the state that you live in. You can't just be out in the view where there's a whole bunch of white men.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

I use that as an excuse. Real talk. I mean, it's not excuse.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:04

If it was a white, if it was white, if it was white, they would have said not guilty. They would have said self-defense if he was white.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:11

It would have probably been that in that case if it was um, you know, you know a white person would have got a white.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:16

It's probably good.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:20

The fact that a one-on-one fight I don't think a white person would have a big difference, though. It does. It makes it wild. But we don't even know because the video's not out.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:26

No, but there was accounts that said he did, he was the building.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:32

Right. Get in jump before white.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:36

Because they lie.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:39

Even if we take this out of it, anybody getting jumped by multiple people deserves to be weapon themselves. And whatever happens, happens. Happens. And they should get away with it if they get jumped. Yeah, because jump because you could get you could get rolled off a jump. Kick you the wrong way, upside the head, snap your neck, anything. So nigga jumping you three.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:59

But even a one-on-one fight, you can die too.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:01

One-on-one, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:02

Because it was this girl that we talked about weeks ago. She got hit and she fell and she died because of brain damage.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:08

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:10

That was a good guy and another guy's guy, a little touchy deal.

The Surprise Bill Date Scenario

SPEAKER_11 1:07:16

But I'm gonna make my what would you do quick. So we ain't gonna have no no no banter.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

No banter.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:20

No banter. Alright, so what would you do? And this, if y'all know my what would you do is my what would you do is are accounts that either I saw or accounts by me or accounts that somebody told me and I'm telling y'all. This one is an account that I saw. So what would you do? And again, this goes, this could go for male or female. We could flip the role reversal. So what would you do? What would you do, male or female, you go on a date with your significant other, and they say, hey, you know, babe, or girl, you know, um, come meet me over here. I'm at um let's say Savu. We're in Charlotte. Come meet me at Savu, go on a date. Okay, I'll meet you there by 8:30. Okay, boom. So you go there and you see your girl or you see your guy, he's days there. They they are there at Savu. And it's about five other people with them. So like, okay. So that's you know, red flag already. You thinking you go on a date with your significant other, and they got other people there. So you may, okay, maybe you just they just there, your friends are there, okay, cool. They'll go, you have a good time, eating, drinking, having a good time. Everything's culture. You get the check. And you they give it to, I guess, the party that was there first, because they maybe assume the larger crowd, larger people, I'm gonna leave this check here. So, what would you do if your significant other takes the check and gives it to you and say, Oh, thank you, you know, pay for the whole party. And mind you, the initial call was, hey, you going on a date, me and you go on a date, you know, I want to go, I'm gonna hair savu. You know, nothing was referenced that friends was gonna be there. So, what would you do if the significant other gives you the bill and say, hey, pay this bill with all my friends? What would you do? For everybody. What would you do? Let's take one person. Let's chase, what would you do?

SPEAKER_10 1:09:17

When you say significant other, you mean like my shorty or just somebody I'm going on a date with?

SPEAKER_11 1:09:22

Say it's your shorty. Say you've been with her for let's say uh a year. This is hypothetically speaking, you've been with her for a year. This is your girl, you real serious with her.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:31

Then I'ma I'm gonna pay for it. But then when we get back, I'm gonna I gotta figure we gotta how you gotta holler at me about that because I'm gonna know why. Because she, if that's my girl, then she already knows me and she know I ain't no sucker. So she had to have a reason for doing that. You know what I'm saying? So I have to trust that her reason was justified for putting me in that, for even coming at me like that, handing me a receipt. Like that's even disrespectful, just handing me a receipt to my paper without explaining why I'm doing this for some people I don't even know. You know what I'm saying? So that's just like that's some sucker shit. Like, like you gotta be, she gotta really look at you like a sucker to even hand you a receipt and just say, pay for my people like that. Right. Without you know, without even explaining it a little bit like coming me a little smoother than you get your way, but just handing me a receipt and saying, take care of these motherfuckers, I don't even know. Nah, man, hell nah, man. Hell no, but I would do it if that's my girl. Because if that's my girl, then she got a respect level for me. And I trust that it's a reason why she did that shit. So I'ma just do it without questioning her, but I'm gonna question her when we leave. Not you know what I mean. Facts. What the hell? You just made me pay for these motherfuckers and shit. Oh, and then we could talk about it then. But I'll be embarrassing.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:39

Let's get one female's perspective and we're gonna tell, I'm gonna tell you what happened. There's only two people in here. That's right, one of y'all perspective.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

Lesson, you got something to say? Uh-uh. I'ma say it then. Basically, I got what would you do? I would never do no file of shit like that. Never in my life. I would never in my life. First of all, bitch, my nigga is not paying for nobody but me. What the fuck? I wish a bitch would be like your nigga gonna pay. Who knows? You gonna pay for me? What? We're gonna put that together. Only y'all gotta stay in the city. I would never do no. But with that being said, that's like a telltale sign that this bitch is not with you because she respects you as a man. Like he said.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

That's not why she with you. She with you for what you can give her and what she benefits from you. Anytime a woman gets you to pay for another woman, and y'all not getting no coochie from that second woman or third woman.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:32

Talk about it, talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:33

Shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:34

Run. Talk about it. Run. She tried to get broken up with.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:38

So what happened was real. Yes, it's real. So what happened was it was the guy was at the table with his girl and all her friends. And she passed him the bill. And she was like, you know, you got it. And he's like, oh, wait, wait, wait. You know, we, you my girl. Like, I didn't come here to pay for all these women. So they all jumped on him. What you mean? What you mean? Oh, what you mean you ain't gonna pay? He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, you know, this is my girl. I'm gonna pay for her, but y'all gotta. They was like, oh, he broke, he ain't got the money, da-da-da. Like they was belittling this man because he didn't want to pay the whole bill for everybody. He just wanted to pay for his girl. So they belittle him. He ended up getting up and walking away. She's like, Fine, fuck it. It's like, oh fuck that nigga. I got the money ain't able to pay for it. Fuck that nigga whoop de whoop. You know, so that's what happened. So the nigga just walked away. I guess that relationship ended because I hope it ended. Hope that shit ended up.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:35

Listen, my nigga ain't paying for no bitch unless she's coming home with us. No way. That's not fucking happening.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:41

Talk to me. That's the it was all girls.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:43

Oh, yeah, yeah. I would definitely all girl then and just holla out later.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:46

Holler out later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:49

Broken up with right there.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:50

Five girls. Uh huh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:52

My girl. Yo, girl. Yeah, I'm never gonna wipe up a funny style to her. That's my girl. She already got some status with her. You know what I mean? Her brain is already right if that's somebody I cuffed up. So I'm not even gonna look at on some bursts. So if she asks me that, it gotta be a reason. I'm gonna just do it. Just do it.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:09

Okay. All right. Well, apparently they didn't feel that way either. Not if it that's a one-time thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:17

I don't know how many times that would happen. That can only happen one time. One time, one time. Hell no.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:25

Oh, we as a that's a mistake. You know what I'm saying? That can happen.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:28

So what would you do? That's my mod you do. What would you do if you went out with your significant other and called you, say, hey, let's go on a date, and y'all go out, and then y'all have the check comes, they give you the check, and they say you pay for you, me, and everybody else. What would you do? You gonna pay for it or you gonna slide?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:51

Time to get triggered.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:53

No, we love that she pisses us up. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:58

That's my ancestor.

Triggered: Victimhood And Accountability

SPEAKER_03 1:14:01

All right, so what's up, freaks and geeks? If you don't know, my name is Lex Rated, and I call myself the People's Champ because I say what everybody is thinking. Um, I do have to throw in there that I do have two psychology degrees solely because I'm gonna be bringing up different psychological concepts. And so I don't want y'all to think that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I also don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:25

You don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:26

So sit back and enjoy. Let's get into it. This is triggered. Okay, so last week, shut the fuck up. Last week it was hard for people to understand, let alone accept what I was saying. If you missed last week, I was talking about what was I talking about, Desh? You know what I was talking about last week? You don't remember seven? Say it on the mic. Make it fast, because we ain't got much time.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:54

My bad. Um it was along the lines of people making excuses and uh not taking accountability somewhat.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:03

Using their race, their gender, their sexuality, their age, all that as an excuse for what the fuck happens to them in life. Okay? Now, yeah, because this is no advisory, a black-owned and black ram podcast, I am going to take it a step further and I'm going to eliminate race from this conversation and make it more general for all the sensitive motherfuckers, okay? Don't listen, I ain't gonna say anything bad about black people. You bet not. Okay. You see this room? Okay. Tonight I want to talk about something that makes people uncomfortable because nobody wants to admit they're doing it. I'm gonna talk about victimhood and we're gonna talk about accountability, one of our favorite words on this podcast.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:48

Switch favorite words. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:51

So the one of the questions that I want y'all to think about tonight is why do people start to act like professional victims? And when did people start making it part of their personality to be a professional victim? What are people getting out of it? Because psychology teaches us something simple. People repeat behaviors that get rewarded, and social media has created a world where being hurt gets rewarded more than being healed. So think about it. There's a uh a psychological concept called secondary gang. And basically, what it is is when a problem that um when a problem creates a hidden benefit. Uh, the pain is real, the struggle is real, but so are the rewards that come with the pain and struggle. Extra attention, extra sympathy, lower expectations, more support. And before somebody starts to get offended, let's give a real live example. I got quite a few of them. Okay. The first one is gonna be Gypsy Rose Blanchard. And then since the room is full of black people, y'all might not know who she is. But for years, people followed her story because she was a victim of severe abuse. Her mom had munchhausen by proxy. Uh, she would make her daughter sick so that she would get the sympathy of taking care of her daughter. So she was absolutely abused, but after she killed her mother and went to jail, she went viral. Everybody wanted to be a part of her story and learn more about her. Every relationship that she was in went viral, and every social media post she posted went viral. The internet invested their time in the victim's story long after she committed a crime. Half the people don't even know that she killed her mother. People weren't following her because she was healed or wasn't sick to begin with, and they felt sorry for her. People were following her because they were attached to the tragedy, and that should make more people uncomfortable, and it doesn't. Social media has made benefiting from tragedy a trend because suffering has become content. There are more toxic story times on TikTok than celebrating success. And let's be real, how often do you see a video go viral because somebody quietly handled their business off the internet for years? Exactly. Now compare that to somebody crying on camera, exposing somebody, talking about their trauma, talking about being betrayed, talking about being wronged. The algorithm loves that shit. And research consistently shows that emotionally charged content gets more engagement than neutral content. Yeah, because everybody knows the people. Especially anger and outrage and victim narratives. The internet doesn't reward healing, it rewards reaction. Most recently, there was a YouTuber that went viral after making a video about aborting their baby after finding out it had Down syndrome. That's considered what they call nowadays trauma porn. His whole YouTube. If you start from this first video to the most recent video, it all is about feeling sorry from him for because somebody died. He got about four or five dogs that have all died, made a video for all of them. His uncle died, he made a video for him, just sitting there taking all of the likes and views and getting paid for it. Exactly. That's the problem. It is. What about the streamer who currently is going viral for cheating on her boyfriend and making a video trying to get people to feel sorry for her for fucking her cousin? Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:41

I see that that shit crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:43

She made a whole video about that shit and lied the entire video and still has not acknowledged the fact that she was fucking her cousin. Not her third, fourth, fifth cousin, her blood cousin. They got the same DNA somewhere and it's fucked up. But she's using this situation for us to feel bad for her. She's depressed. She's getting death threats. X, Y, and Z. Feel sorry for me. Okay. What about the couple that lives in a fucking tent and refuses to actually get a job? They're choosing to be homeless. They've blown through thousands of dollars living in a tent homeless, and they're getting people to fund their lifestyle. People are using sympathy as a cash cow nowadays. And here's where shit starts to get weird real fast because now people are competing over who had it worse. And yes, that's a real thing. It is giving trauma bonding on crack. Social psychologists call it competitive victimhood. People compete for moral authority through suffering. You see it everywhere: men versus women, boomers versus millennials, parents versus their children. Everybody wants to prove they suffered more than the rest. Because the bigger victim gets the most sympathy, the bigger victim gets the most understanding or gets more understanding, the bigger victim has the less account, the least amount of accountability. Look at almost any relationship debate online right now. Before people even discuss a solution, they're spending an hour arguing over whose pain matters more. The conversation stops being about fixing the problem and it becomes a competition. When did the most oppressed become more valued than being or when did when did being oppressed become more value than being resilient? And I say that because every time somebody gets into one of those exposing videos, I just watched one recently on YouTube where he shot and killed his girlfriend, and then he shot and killed himself, and he shot and killed his girlfriend because she gave him herpes and they were on live. And I was like, damn, ain't nobody like ain't nobody calling the police, ain't nobody worried about this altercation going on. We're all just sitting here watching him take somebody's life. Crazy. Another topic in psychology I want to discuss is externalization. It's a big one. That's when people constantly locate the source of every problem outside of themselves. And before anybody gets sensitive, this is a human behavior. We all do this shit. Everybody does it from time to time. When they fail a test, a teacher was unfair. When they get fired, the boss hated you or they was racist. Your relationship ends, your ex was crazy or manipulative. Now, sometimes those things are true, they can be true, but every story ends with somebody else being the villain. We might need to look a little bit deeper. Look at reality TV. How many people leave those shows claiming everybody else was the problem? After a while, statistically speaking, everybody can't be the issue except you. The ego would rather protect your feelings than improve your life. And that's facts. There's another psycho psychological concept that I want to talk about. It's called moral licensing. This is a little bit uh more direct because it's a lot more dangerous. Uh, this happens when people convince themselves they're the one that's like part of the good guys. And this happens when they stop questioning their own behavior. So you see this online every day. Someone spends all day talking about kindness, justice, accountability, and then turns around and doxes somebody. They release their address online, they release their phone number online, they call their job, they threaten to uh to come to somebody's house, they harass people, contact their family members, and somehow convince themselves that they're morally right. If you've ever been on the app Vigo, they do this shit all the time. They'll go and find everything about you and go on live and expose everything about you to the point where people are literally having folks show up to their house with guns. It's crazy. But they decided that they're fighting for a good cause. Now, how many people are actually seeking justice at this point? And how many people are just enjoying the punishment that the other person gets to experience just because they didn't agree with them. Now, cancel culture also comes into play when we're talking about this. And for me, it's really our ability to communicate effectively that's a problem. Some people spend more time investing in strangers than improving themselves. You're gonna start digging through tweets from 20 years ago, searching on Facebook posts for that one ugly picture, trying to expose somebody or trying to destroy somebody's character. And don't get me wrong, some things absolutely deserve accountability. But accountability and public humiliation are not the same thing. You think about how many internet scandals you've seen where people lost their jobs, relationships, opportunities, reputation, and they didn't do anything, they didn't commit any criminal behavior, just public outrage. Will Smith smacking the shit out of um Chris Rock. That man got canceled. When the last time y'all seen him? And the crowd celebrates it. How many times have you seen someone issue a public apology for some shit they did a decade ago? That nobody would have known about if we didn't have internet. Some people are addicted to justice or they're addicted to having a target to attack and create more victims. So I talked about identity last time, and I think that's one of the biggest issues. Okay. I think identity is a big issue because once people build their identity around being hurt or being the victim, healing becomes a threat. When you think about it, if being a victim gets you attention, community validation, support, then getting better means you're losing all of that. And that's the scary trade-off that a lot of people don't want to make. Their entire online community is built around shared grievances, not shared solutions, shared grievances. People know every detail about the problem, but have no interest in discussing a way forward, discussing a plan. Some people don't know who they are without the thing that hurt them. Their whole lives revolve around a trauma they're experiencing or a situation where they felt like they were wrong. South. I'm about to end it, y'all. I promise. This is for all my black people. Hold my hand when I say this, please. Stop being professional victims. Stop trying to hold people accountable for some shit that not only did not happen to you, but none of us were alive when it happened. While it did happen, and it did impact us when it comes to generational trauma, wealth, and the overall struggle that we experience as a race in general. We are right here and we are right now, and the only ones that can change this shit. You can't change the past, but you can change the future for your children. And if we don't fix this shit, then our children will have to fix this shit. And that's how we got where the fuck we are right now. What about the government and white motherfuckers? You can't. You gonna say this shit when you're gonna be able to do it. You can't you can't blame another group of people for something and then expect them to fix it. You gotta fix it yourself. It'd be times where we're gonna be doing shit like that. Got the infemal reunion. Our ancestors have, we don't know that. We don't know what the hell happened. We're we're basing our opinions off of what. People are telling us instead of being a part of it. Our ancestors have laid the foundation and made it possible for our generation to succeed. Let's be honest, there's black millionaires. That fact alone, the fact that there's black millionaires and we were enslaved over a hundred years ago is crazy. But how many people actually acknowledge that? We have to stop acting like it's a disability to be black. Like we're out here screaming black lives matter, but also blaming every hardship or every discomfort that we experience on being black. I'm not here to start a race war, trust me. Because everybody knows me and they know very well I'm an equal opportunist. I don't like none of you motherfuckers. What? Every race has its own problems, though. And they have their own struggles. But we are the only race that uses our skin color as an excuse why we can't be successful. Not true. Not true. And that shit starts at what? That's not true.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:04

Every race, our race as why they can't be successful.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:08

No, they fucking don't.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:10

The KKK and the white supremacists think that we the reason why they think we taking their jobs, we taking their women. That's a bit hot.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:18

Yes, they do. They got we taken over. Everybody knows that they're not taking their jobs. You are talking about other fucking people that are immigrants coming into this country.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:30

They feel like this is their country, this is their land, so anything that we have is theirs. That's what they feel.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:38

I am black. That's why I can say this shit with confidence. I have logic. I was taught about the African diaspora. I know what the fuck happened to our people. But I also know that me and my peers, these motherfuckers sitting at this table, are the only ones that's gonna change the future. So stop talking about shit that happened in the past that you can't do shit to change and work with work with the people. The KKK is alive right now. The KKK is happening right now. KKK is alive right now. Facts.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:10

White supremacy is alive right now.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:11

Big facts. How is that affecting you as an individual?

SPEAKER_07 1:30:14

I'm not saying it's affecting me. What I'm asking you, do you believe that they think that we belong here?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:21

How is it affecting the people? It's not affecting me. It is affecting my people. It's not affecting my people.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:26

That's why Chubb people like Chug is walking around causing habit.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:30

Exactly, bro. Y'all people is you sound like auntie rush. It's not about whatever answer. Hold on, hold on, man. Black people don't take let me finish. Black people do not take accountability for how they are prejudiced against other races. We love that. We do. We are out loud. We don't hide it. We say cracker proudly. We will call a white price a cracker proudly. You do not take accountability for insulting other races, but you expect them not to say anything to you. You can walk around this bitch.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:02

Everybody's not like any statement that starts with white Chinese. Generalizing Chinese right now. That's crazy. I expect it more out of this. It can't never be true because everybody's not the same. So when you say black people or white people, all white people not the same, all black people are not.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:24

It can't be true because everybody.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:26

When you say all black people, nah anti-ruckisness. That's crazy. All black people not the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:33

All black people not the same, so why do we seem to think that all white people are the same? We don't seem to be. We do. She just repeated over and over again. White people, white people, Robin Thick is one of my favorite RB artists. Okay, because Shout to my white boy Timber Collins.

SPEAKER_07 1:31:50

Shout out to my boy A.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:51

I have a lot of white friends. And I'm sure, I'm sure somebody in a different way I know a lot of black white motherfuckers. And I got a lot of black friends. What I'm saying, y'all getting away from the point.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:01

I say you hate us. You hate us, and I just still hate us.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:04

I just found out today. Y'all not listening. Y'all not listening because she's always like, y'all not listening.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:11

Y'all not listening.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:12

Thank you. Y'all not listening. You have to, you gotta, at the end of the day, y'all gotta listen to understand, not listen to respond. I'm not here to change y'all's mind. I'm here to give you a different a different perspective. And from my perspective, someone that studied the African diaspora and black history and went to a HBCU, I very much so like my people. And I very much like us, you like us? I can't stand these niggas.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:39

You pushing a white man agenda.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:40

I can't I can't stand these niggas. Because niggas, niggas, ago, I'm a nigga now. Niggas won't let you finish saying what you gotta say.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:52

Let it get through it, because we can let it get through it. God damn.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

At the end of the day, I love my people. I like my people. But I can't stand y'all at the same time. Because we, as a group and as a unit, are too smart, too fucking talented to continue to blame another fucking race for why we cannot be successful. We have everything in our power to be as successful as we want to be. So, what I am telling you is get out of the mindset of somebody else is doing something to you. Take control of your life and create a future for your children that you want your children to be safe in. Because complaining about how you're being treated based on one experience is not going to improve the future for your children. If there's an issue with the justice system, go out and vote so that you can have the appropriate people in your judicial system. If you do not want to do that, that's your prerogative. But at the end of the day, the fact still stands. Not everything that happens to you is because of somebody else. And it doesn't matter how you flip the script, back it up, and reverse it, it's because of you and what you are doing to contribute to your life. My name's Lex Rated.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:15

Well, what's your message to on the flip side for the white people? Because goddamn. Thank you. I understand your message right now, so on the flip side, that's your message to them and their accountability. But you say I want to hear what you want to what you would say to them for their accountability.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:31

When you say accountability, are you talking about the people?

SPEAKER_10 1:34:33

Same accountability you're talking about for black people.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:35

Shann got one.

SPEAKER_07 1:34:38

And how and how and how does answer the question? I don't know. He's scared. But how does what when black people vent and speak their truth that they feel is they truth, how does that affect you? Why? In a wrong way. Because you seem like it's affecting you. It's a problem that we just say, like some people say. So I'll answer this question first.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:00

I will answer your question.

SPEAKER_10 1:35:04

That was to bless people for their accountability. I would like to hear a closing statement for white people to their accountability. I like what you just just said.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:13

She ain't got one. White people, my thank you. My statement for taking accountability on your hand is stop killing these niggas so they can stop saying that you're out here killing them.

SPEAKER_07 1:35:30

Let me finish.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:32

I tried to give you the better pits. Let me finish.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:39

Let me finish. Let me finish. Are we serious? Let me finish. God damn. Come on, we gotta make it.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:49

Come on.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:50

God damn. There's no way. There's no for yeah, you're right. There's no way that y'all can apologize for the shit that your ancestors did. There's no way at all that you can make up for that shit. Nothing is ever going to be enough. All you can do moving forward is to make sure your children know what love is, to make sure your children know that there is no difference between the human race. We're all the fucking same. And teach them how to love each other and not move their life that's what she's not knowing. I like it.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:20

Let it finish.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:20

I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_07 1:36:21

Go ahead. Yeah, I like it. I like it. I like it.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:27

Because she loves him. You done after what she's going through self-defense. Casillo trying to get me to finish this shit out and you just keep it going.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:35

I am. You just keep it going.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:37

You just keep it going. That's the only way any of this shit is gonna change. Is you gotta teach the next generation what right and wrong is. We can't do shit about what happened in the past. Is I mean, I I I it's crazy for people to expect somebody to be able to do something about what happened in the past. We gotta fix what's going on now and fix our children and the future. Because they are the ones that are going to have this world working in the next 20 years. So teach them how to love their neighbor. Don't they say that shit in church? Love thy neighbor. Okay? And like I said earlier, stop like if stop killing people. Because the more you kill people, the more they feel like you're doing it because of their race. Stop leading your life with hatred. Even if you are upset or if you're frustrated with what you got going on in your life, seek fucking therapy. But walking around this bitch handing out hate and racial slurs is not going to be the way for you to get what you want, to get peace, or to feel any type of superiority over people that bleed the same color blood as you. That is my message about them taking accountability. Teach your children how to be better than you, because hate is taught. And if everybody at this table has the mentality of, oh, this group of people hates us before your child even experiences that group of people, they're gonna go into the situation already feeling like they're flawed and something's wrong with them. Because why do they hate me? And of course, you teach them the history, you teach them what they experienced in the past, but you also let them know that now, moving forward, we're gonna treat everybody with love and kindness. And if somebody does not treat you with love and kindness, you come tell me, and we'll go talk to their parents about it.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:28

What? They don't know I ain't telling you.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:32

What the fuck? I will I will never introduce my daughter to a white supremacist. Yeah, I'm speaking as I'm speaking as all white people are not racist, all white supremacists are racist. She don't want her reparations, give them to me. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:46

We're not gonna get no reparations.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:48

She don't want her, give it to me. She don't believe in it. I'm not a physical.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:50

I can't even remember what switches question what.

SPEAKER_07 1:38:53

Give me. I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:53

No, we're not gonna answer. Give me her reparations. We gotta give me her reparations. Let's wrap this up. Let's wrap it up. She don't want her reparations. Give them two.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:01

And this is triggered.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:04

I didn't know it's triggered and triggered. How to stay out of that one? I was like, Lex Have it. She got that one. Hell no. But I get her POV. I see always P.O.V. I get it. I see. Uncle Records. Always see both sides. I may not agree with her all the time, like I say, but I see both sides. And you know, I didn't say I agree.

SPEAKER_07 1:39:28

Alright, pot and bars.

Pot And Bars Freestyle Session

SPEAKER_07 1:39:31

Pott and bars. Don't come here if you can't fucking rap. Please don't come here if you can't fucking rap. Just wrote this. I was currently writing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Turn me down this in a little bit, you know what I'm saying? I just wrote this shit. You feel me? We gonna try to one take to me. I just wrote it as the pie was going. Switch by the bar, don't come in and get fucking rap. Adidas on my Adidas on my feet, like Red Fun in his prime. What a time to be alive. Put your niggas till I die. Fuck the birds, mystify. I look for my environment to crime. I'm persisted. This is God where I exemplify. Made doing what I got. My time made me improvise. Put my chin I will provide. I will not. I need the trick for your daddy. This ain't flipping slide. Don't mix nothing else when I'm picking hot. Don't fuck with breast pills. That's how my friend's God. That's hard to guide 260 lights. Walking round broke every day. Try to get rich to die at home. It's meant to always gotta rap about putting tons upon. To help you celebrate five months. It's helped pizza like I got Nazo. Don't pass me that spray. That is my right. So better play your cards right and get dropped like some. For my spur staying with the ribby yard. On a different side. I use a Pokemon. Just a DigiPa. Tryna fall like Jimmy Y'all, bitch. I'm hard. No, I'm still here. They say I say I'm still here, my bitch still got say, Living stable like old lieutenants and no trafficking charges, the legend trapped for six years. Traps full of thriller jackets, nothing but six tears. Skinny nigga leave a dick bitch in the wheelchair. Out of bars, don't come in and get fucking wet.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:41

Out of motherfuckin' bars. You gotta raise it up.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:51

That's uh Yes. Out of bars. I'm gonna turn in the regular. Oh, I'm gonna be away. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:11

What a spelling is regulated. Why don't we take your life funny delegated? Come together, we need to get them separated. Make it does, don't make it demonstrate.

Album Push And Weekend Plans

SPEAKER_09 1:43:16

We take the culture, value one out now. Yow man, that was powder bars, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:24

Swish A C though. Sice Viva.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:29

Stick it down in the stairs. Yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:31

Right, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:36

So I want everybody to go get the album, man. Reshaping a culture value one. Yes. I'm telling y'all we got Fabulous on the album. We got Memphis Bleak on the album. We got Conway the Machine on the album. We got Waka the Facker on the album. We got Styles P on the album. We got Jim Jones on the album. We got the one and only Max B on the album. EMG the label, man. We we took about six, seven months to create this project, and we're happy that the world is appreciating it. And we gon' we're gonna run it all the way up, man. We got a new single coming out of my album called Out the Mud. So speaking of revolt TV, salute to 440 artists for putting the muscle behind this. EMG the label, man, is not just a label, it's a lifestyle. And I just appreciate the Carolina back and the New York bag and the whole world. The globe is fucking with it. And I appreciate y'all for having me and showing love and spreading the word about this music.

SPEAKER_07 1:44:40

So Max B is your label, mate.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:42

Max B is a we got two different EMGs. Okay, but we all combine them together and we all work together. Shout out to Max. That's my dog.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:56

EMG label. Sure Swiss said he's gonna get signed.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:00

Man, this is good, big.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:02

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SPEAKER_07 1:45:14

He got them drinks that's gonna make the you fuck the shit out your bitch. You hear me? Afro D G. He got the Afrodis, yeah. He got the Beetle juice. What's it? The beet juice? The Beetlejuice. He got the beet juice. He said the beet juice make you beat the pussy up.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:32

It gives you the energy. It gives you the energy. You pissed me on that.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:37

You trying to beat that shit, get the beat juice. Not only is it good for the heart, it's good for the genitals too. Yow, yow!

SPEAKER_03 1:45:48

Before we close out, we are outside this weekend. We got our Juneteenth podcast cookout show on June 19th. This Saturday, we're gonna be at Trina. We're gonna see Trina.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:59

And then you know the shirt is gonna be old by the time we come out now. I know. I know. Just for Twitch. Just for Twitch. Oh.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:06

Yeah. And then tomorrow we got this lake party. I said, that's it. Okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:09

Is everybody invited to the lake party?

SPEAKER_11 1:46:11

No, it's not. It's the invite.

SPEAKER_07 1:46:14

So if he meant at the lake party, gonna be all right. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:18

That's what I'm saying. The pod, the podcast. It's gonna be hot. It's dirty, they ain't got no pool in that bitch. It's just the lake. Swim at your own river.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:28

The lake is a nice body of water. Clean body of water. So on that note, it is your boy, Sil McLean.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:36

And that's your girl, Nola Desk.

SPEAKER_10 1:46:39

Shays Vader, EMG the label.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:41

Thank you, Shice. It's Lex rated the biggest motherfucking Aquarius.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:48

Ariola.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:50

Ariola.