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Noadvisory Podcast Season 8 Episode 13

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We kick things off with a blunt rule about loyalty and boundaries, then run through messy entertainment headlines and real-world stories that test what people will do for money, clout, and comfort. We end up in the deeper stuff: clarity, emotional accountability, and what it really takes to stand on what you say you want, plus a guest conversation with independent rapper Jass Clutch about her grind and her brand. 

• setting boundaries with people who only return when you’re winning 
• breaking down the Zeus Network drama, contracts, and public claims 
• questioning coordinated social media defenses and money incentives 
• reacting to Minister Zay’s cross-country fundraising walk for HMBL University 
• debating DaBaby’s place next to Drake, Kendrick Lamar, and J Cole 
• separating “rapper” from “artist” and talking songwriting realities 
• tackling clarity versus confusion in dating, friendships, and communication 
• defining accountability, boundaries, and when to address problems 
• learning vocabulary with capricious, morose, sanguine, ubiquitous 
• interviewing Jazz Clutch on independence, studio prep, and staying authentic 

If I drop a poll on my story about topics, y'all, y'all gotta, y'all gotta come on now. 


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Loud Intro And Roll Call

SPEAKER_11

It's the one and only Jasmine like the motherfucking flower. And if you don't know, now you know, nigga. And it's your girl Nola Desk. What's up, freaks and geeks? It's the People's Champ. Lex Rated.

SPEAKER_09

Man, switch A seat though. Just watch nigga with more place than the sink. I'm capping, I'm napping and I'm wide awake. You are now too.

SPEAKER_02

And you are now too.

SPEAKER_03

You are now fucking with switch.

SPEAKER_02

That that is what Lex wanted. She wanted that as a name. That's why he did it like that.

SPEAKER_12

As a matter of fact, better. Shall I make some of the things?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, yes. Shall I make case digital? Okay. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12

Yes. Shut my little Mr. Ball. Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Right, girl. I was talking to you.

SPEAKER_12

Shout out my girl Diamonds over there. Yes. Right then. Huh? What up? What up, girl? Shout out girl nine in the back.

SPEAKER_11

I should have bought my sunglasses. Yeah, people's name.

SPEAKER_02

Key? Who your people's name? The dog King. What up, King?

SPEAKER_11

You gonna back me up and everything. I'm good. How are you?

SPEAKER_02

She got a mic. Make her make sure she got a mic. And just hold it, hold it, you know how you do it. You know what I mean? Hello. Yes, sir. So yeah, you know it is, man. It's always my daily pinmo Bossi podcast. We got a very special guest in the bed with us. She's gonna join us in momentarily. But jazz catches in the motherfucking baby with us. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Hello. Yes, sir. Check, check, check.

SPEAKER_11

It's good, money. Yeah, I made this of course. Oh, wow. You made this.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, but she got gifts. You come, she comes with gifts. It's good, money. You gotta talk right into it.

Hot Take On Loyalty

SPEAKER_11

Alright, right, right. We are back with a bounce breakdown where we talk about drama, the news, and the fucked up world we live in. So my hot take of the week is something that I got from my childhood best friend when I was in Atlanta. And from somewhere, what are you looking at me like that? And from somewhere else. So basically I want to say is if someone chooses to not be around when you are down or at your lowest, I mean, like if they don't check up on you, they don't keep the same energy from when y'all was cool, but as soon as you are uplifted and doing your thing and they want to come back into your life, do not let them. Do not let them. Leave them where they at and stand on that heavy condition. Come in when they wanna be. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. When they wanna be. No big facts.

SPEAKER_09

Uh-huh. I like them being the devil's advocate. Come in when they wanna be or when they want to.

SPEAKER_11

When they want to, yeah. Okay. Tight shit.

SPEAKER_09

I was just confused.

SPEAKER_00

I was trying to figure it out.

Zeus Network Allegations And Fallout

SPEAKER_11

Shut up, bro. Shut up. You always gotta do that. Tight shit. Alright, anyways. Alright, so let's talk about this drama with Lemuel Plummer, known as Lemmy, the owner of Zeus, and Jocelyn Hernandez, the owner of Jocelyn Cabaret show on Zeus. As y'all know, well, if y'all don't know, Jocelyn does not want anything to do with Lemmy or Zeus Network. She has made her own network called Why Are You Here TV? Which is that's a lame ass name.

SPEAKER_09

That's a long ass name. No, no, not long.

SPEAKER_11

That's a lame ass name. You don't like that? Why are you here TV? What the fuck is that? That's already like giving negative, like, why are you here?

SPEAKER_09

She probably was trying to pronounce something different and that's what came out.

SPEAKER_11

Right, I don't even want to go look at your show. Like, what do you mean why am I here?

SPEAKER_09

She probably was trying to say something different, and that's what came out.

SPEAKER_02

She can't be saying, Why are you here? Like, what is the content she's gonna have on the show? Strippers and shit.

SPEAKER_11

So, yeah, she does. One of the shows is um strippers.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, and it's why are you here? I don't get it.

SPEAKER_11

Get girls' songs. She's gonna get the money girl.

SPEAKER_02

She gets the same trumbone sounds.

SPEAKER_11

She gives pimp pimp at vibes. She does. But her and her husband. Ain't nothing wrong with it. But while still being on the contract with Zeus, she made her own network. And Lemmy took a professional way and messaged both Jocelyn and her husband ballistic, letting them know that they have breached their agreement with engaging with a competitive platform, which is her network. And then also now that's TV, which could stop their payments because you know they breaching a um they breaching their agreement, so they're gonna stop, he's stopping their payments. And Jocelyn didn't like that. So she took it to social media, she started making claims that the Zeus network is evil evil, and that Lemmy allegedly is sex trafficking all the females on Zeus. He has um he was allegedly abusing Scotty with the body and Janisha. You watch baddies then, because you laughing.

SPEAKER_09

Scotty is not gonna testify.

SPEAKER_08

It just be funny. I don't watch it.

SPEAKER_09

Scotty is not gonna testify against Limited.

SPEAKER_11

She did, though. Oh no, she definitely didn't testify. No, she's not gonna testify against him. She definitely not. But he also um it was also stated that he allegedly made homicidal threats to Jocelyn and her baby that's not born yet. And you know, he did so much more, which had most of the females of Zeus make post around the same time, y'all. Literally, they all like I've seen one post and then another post and another post, like right after each other, of them defending their name and defending Lemmy and going against the actual person, going against Jocelyn, of who actually made them who they are today and put them on a show. And I felt like them posting all at once was very suspicious, and given that they were paid to make that defensive post so he could be detected and take them to court.

SPEAKER_00

Know what's going on?

SPEAKER_11

Somewhat.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay. Somewhat. You trying, you trying.

SPEAKER_02

You're trying to keep it. I respect it, I respect it, I respect it. God knows what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_09

He done got better, he done came a long way from fuck this shit. No, right.

SPEAKER_11

We got a lot of it with me now. We got a lot of hearts and comments on TikTok right now, so they must be feeling like.

SPEAKER_09

Y'all seen Summer beat up Rolly? Summer beat up Rolly.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, summer. Summer beat Rolly a bad omen. I ain't see it yet. We're not gonna get into a debate.

SPEAKER_09

I just want to say something. I just want to get this out. I just want to I just gotta get this off. Rolly, you a fat ass bitch.

SPEAKER_03

I'm done. I'm done.

SPEAKER_09

I'm done. I'm done. We get to go to the next one. I'm done.

SPEAKER_04

I'm sure she knows.

SPEAKER_11

But Jocelyn is not the only person that made claims about Lemmy or Zoo or the Zeus Network. Krishan, Biggie, the Hammer Man from Erica Mena Show, Tanisha from Bad Girls Club, and Natalie, when she was beefing with Lemmy, had also made claims about Lemmy and the Zeus Network. And all the people that are on Zeus, they see what's going on and they think, you know, everything's all good because when you get money, money is gonna shut someone up real quick until something makes them piss off, and then they're gonna tell it all. And that's basically what everybody is doing that was on that show. That's crazy. That's a bunch of weak-minded people. I for money to be something that can make you go out of your character and do shit that puts your life in jeopardy. Like, I I couldn't be me. I would have been snitched. As soon as I got in there, I would have been like, I told y'all she's like, when I say that when we talk about snitching, I told y'all she was snitched. But they said I'm not snitching because I'm not committing the crime with them, but I'm just exactly like there's actual definitions. Yeah, seven said it. Seven said I'm telling I'm a bystander. Seven if she's snitching. Seven, you definitely said I was a bystander, and because I'm not in the street shit, it's not snitching. Yo, you was a straight snitch. Who are you talking about? Okay, this shit on here. You are straight snitching. Because I'm not a part of the street life, I am if I am telling on someone committing a crime. Being a part of snitch life, the the street life or not even citizen snitch. Yeah, I'm telling, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, she's telling.

SPEAKER_11

Thank you. It's still a snitch. Thank you. It's still a snitch. Okay, anyways, a lot of people are saying that Jocelyn made Zeus. Do y'all think she made Zeus? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_09

She made it lit for sure.

SPEAKER_11

I think Natalie made Zeus. Oh no, yeah, Natalie. I'm tripping. I think I think Jocelyn, yeah, she made a mark, but I think Natalie made Zeus. When you think about Zeus, you think about Natalie. You're not thinking about Jocelyn. And that was a lot of their beef. Like, you know, Jocelyn and the first one. Jocelyn was first. She was first. I'm not saying she wasn't first, but when you think about it, you think Natalie first.

SPEAKER_09

I ain't start watching it until Natalie, like till Betty started turning up. They started turning up. I ain't gonna lie. I still ain't watched cabaret. I can't get into that shit.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, at the end of the day, Zeus is soliciting everybody the motherfucking show anyway. So I don't give a fuck who on there. They're all here. Jocelyn was about.

SPEAKER_09

She just like beating them up.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, she's like Tower, man. They 100% do look like they're$2. Like if she's lying. They be letting them, uh, they be letting them talk to her. Cause if I was on Jocelyn show, I would have. No, you wouldn't now. Yes, I would have been in the top. You wouldn't be doing nothing but throwing at it. I would have been. Niggas. Niggas are always be like, I know that's wrong. Y'all know what damn well I got a temp, but I ain't finna let nobody talk to me. No company. I definitely would have said something too. I definitely would've, who the fuck you talking? I don't care how much money you got. Who the fuck could you talking to? She would've booted me. I don't give a fuck. I'm throwing everything at her ass. The goddamn table, the chair, I'm throwing everything. I got me.

SPEAKER_09

Her nigga fight too. Her nigga help her fight.

Minister Zay’s Cross-Country Faith Walk

SPEAKER_11

I know she I know he does. I know he does. I got uncles. Mine do too. You better not hit me around him. He's gonna swing on you. And I'm less than a few. They better be upset with you. I ain't fucking with Les. How the fuck are you up with this? Alright, next that I want to break down is have y'all seen the man, Minister Zay? What they call him on social media, but I know him as Isaiah Thomas because we're graduated school together. But Zay made a choice to walk around, to walk from Philly to California, which is a 3,000-mile faith walk, I'm going to say, to raise$200,000 to build what he calls HMBL University, which is a trade school for people who can't afford college or doesn't want to go to that route. And it's basically like you know, like a job court. Yeah, you're doing your thing, Zay. But Zay has been live streaming the whole way on his Twitch account, which is HMBL Zay with two Ys at the end. So if you want to stay tuned in to see where he is at or how far he has gotten, tune into his Twitch account. He is currently in Richmond, Indiana, right now. So he has about seven more states to go. He only has done two states so far. During Zay's walk journey, he got hit by a car in the better but accident. That was accident.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Worst happened to the monks. Bro, bro.

SPEAKER_02

My bad.

SPEAKER_11

Did y'all see that like 20 monks just got busted for drugs? For real? I thought I would say it wasn't the same group. No, no, no. It's real. They just said it was like the younger ones. It wasn't the ones that I see.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, the young YN monks. The YM monks is wild here.

SPEAKER_11

That's crazy. Pounds, pounds, that's bound. But anyways, shout out to YN Monks.

SPEAKER_02

Y'all niggas gangsta. Fria, man. Free uh. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_11

But anyways, if y'all see the video with a um in the video, you can see the blue car that hit him was trailing him, which is protecting him.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit, my bad.

SPEAKER_11

In that car hit him?

unknown

My bad.

SPEAKER_03

Crazy.

SPEAKER_11

I'm gonna cross you on. You ain't see that blue. Yeah, so the blue car was trailing him and protecting him while he was walking, and another car accidentally hit that car, which hit him. Stop doing my friend like that. My bad. You trying to get that nigga on the show, goddamn. He ain't gonna be on the show, you be laughing at that nigga.

SPEAKER_02

I ain't laughing, it was the button. Huh?

SPEAKER_11

Exactly. So, anyways, after he was hit by the car, Zay was rushed to the hospital. Get through it. Zay was rushed to the hospital. He had an injury plane, his neck, his legs, and his feet. But he survived, y'all. He survived. And he did announce that he is still going to finish his walk and that the back brace that he was wearing the whole time while he was walking did save his life when he got hit. Oh, yeah. Why the fuck did he have a back brace on? Because it was stage. Because, you know, he had a I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

You had to see this nigga walking with a back brace on and get hit by a car.

SPEAKER_11

Like fucked up. Folks do anything for the fucking thing. It was the first thing.

SPEAKER_02

No, but so he's walking right from Philly to LA, right? I'm like, he's not gonna make it.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, let's not, let's not do him. What the fuck is this? Y'all have faith in the goddamn. Y'all had faith in the goddamn months. But they was taking rests and they was stopping. Okay, speaking of rests, speaking of rest, let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. So Zay's team stated that he should investigate, get an RV. So he is now looking for someone to donate an RV, and the RV will be used for his rest stops. Like the month's day that night for their walk, they had hotels for the cats.

SPEAKER_02

He didn't plan this out. You gotta get donations and shit. He didn't know how to walk out. He just started walking and share, nigga.

SPEAKER_11

But when he went to Ohio, they did surprise him and they had like food and stuff for him.

SPEAKER_02

Who the fuck is this nigga?

SPEAKER_11

Did it stay here in the shade room? No.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's all over. They plastered this nigga. No, he's just a regular nigga that decided to walk. May God be with you.

SPEAKER_09

May God be with you. That is bad.

SPEAKER_02

I don't want to sound like that because it's our people. But like we just do dumb shit sometimes, just for attention.

SPEAKER_09

You never know.

SPEAKER_02

Like from Philly to LA, nigga, that's across the map.

SPEAKER_09

They might name a marathon after him. I hope so. I hope so.

SPEAKER_11

You're gonna make it. I got faith in you.

SPEAKER_09

I got faith in you, too.

SPEAKER_11

You're gonna make it. We're gonna make it.

SPEAKER_02

And for you. If he makes it, you gotta buy him some new shoes. That's motivation laughter.

SPEAKER_11

Motivation laughter. Yeah, dude. You my friend all, but I ain't buying you too.

SPEAKER_06

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_11

Alright, so last I'm gonna break down. Well, it's actually a question that I seen. Okay. Um really. Do y'all think that it's too much going on?

SPEAKER_02

Too much going on, y'all.

SPEAKER_11

Sorry, I'm trying to. Y'all some alcoholics.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_11

But do y'all think that the baby belongs in the same conversation as Drake, Kendrick Lamar, and J. Cole? Wait, I I say that to say because the baby was on a radio interview, and he claimed that he is better than Drake, Kendrick Lamar, and J. Cole, and that it is all about raw skill and confidence. What do y'all think? That's wild.

SPEAKER_02

I can't answer it because it might it might offend my my connections.

SPEAKER_11

Drake?

SPEAKER_02

You better not be.

SPEAKER_11

You better be Kendrick?

SPEAKER_09

I feel like I feel like Kendrick. I feel like every every rapper, everybody in the game is supposed to feel like that. How he feels, everybody's supposed to feel like that. But I don't feel like I don't feel like right now for the accolades he got and all of that, he he's not, he's not at their level, but he can be one day for sure. Right.

SPEAKER_11

He's not trash. It is about copies. He can't compare himself to people who do more and different things than he does.

SPEAKER_02

Uh well.

SPEAKER_11

When he first started, his heats were all sounded the same to me. Like one song came out, and then it sounded like the old song.

SPEAKER_09

He did a lot, though. He did a lot.

SPEAKER_10

I do like his music videos.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he's very animated and very creative with his videos. He's a nigga that could get that could get canceled.

SPEAKER_10

He actually did one of the videos at my job.

SPEAKER_09

That's just crazy. He a nigga that could get canceled five times. But the way he the way he hustled and the way he grind, like his hustle.

SPEAKER_02

It's like his match. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_08

Um, which part?

SPEAKER_02

The the baby saying that he's a bad thing.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, like if you listen to his last album, he get real lyrical with it, but he get kind of like on more like a personal level. Like, so I would say, yeah. Like the last album, yeah. And then his freestyles, yeah. But like all the other like hit music, I can see why people would be biased. But like lately, though, he been getting like way more personal. But I feel like if he was to get challenged, I think he could do it though, because he really is lyrical though. He done got way more lyrical as of lately.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And I just think right, it depends on what you like and who you like. Right? Because they're going to be obviously fans of Drake, Kendrick, and everybody else, and they're gonna be fans of the baby. You know, me personally, for him to say that to allude to what uh Swish was saying, you know, you supposed to feel like that regardless of what you're doing, supposed to feel like you're the best. But then you gotta really look at who you are comparing yourself to and take a step back. Like, okay, I feel like the best, but I'm Kendrick. What is it, Kendrick? Drake and the city.

SPEAKER_10

Drake and J. Cole.

SPEAKER_02

And J. Cole, those are three lyricists, like nasty with the penmanship. Not saying that you ain't nasty with the penmanship, but it's tiers to this shit. These niggas is top tier. You like writing.

SPEAKER_08

Drake won't write none of this shit.

SPEAKER_02

Drew Drake? Nah, Drake is a writing. He it was only in one account with um, what's that guy name? Um, forgot his name, Quentin Miller. But see, and that and that says that's like say if you're in a studio, right? You in the studio, and you knocking out your shit, and the nigga come in and be like, yo, and you say some shit like, oh, that shit is dope, how you said that, and then you use that as a reference, and then you put that in your shit.

SPEAKER_08

He was a suburban kid, though. He didn't know nothing about this shit. He ain't write, he don't write majority of his shit. Look, like I'm telling you what I know.

SPEAKER_02

Shit.

SPEAKER_08

I think I don't mean rooms, I don't he don't write majority of his shit all the time.

SPEAKER_03

Nah, he don't.

SPEAKER_11

I think that is different levels to lyricists, too. I think that because we're from up north, the J. Cole's, the Kendrick, I don't know. I can't really say that everybody loves Kendrick. I I personally think Kendrick is overrated. I think Drake is overrated. Now, when you talk about J. Cole, yes, I fuck with J. Cole. But there are different levels to lyricists. Like we're used to that. Like how um shout out to um Kai Vase and he was talking about the boom bat. Like, that's what we're used to, just getting them punches in. But the baby is lyric is a lyricist on a different level. Like, he's more down south with it. But the shit that he be saying, he really putting it together. I've always been a baby fan, but I do agree with you that where he is now is more personal, and he's really taking us through his story. Like when you listen to his music, you're bound to feel it, and he really is saying some shit. So okay, so my my my only statement is Drake and J. Cole write for other people. They write completely different songs outside of what they have for other people who are like outside of Kanye who is writing other than full songs. The dream the dream is not rapping. We talking about rapping. It's not a topic that we own right now. But the dream is not rapping right now, and we haven't heard a song like that. He wrote hits. Can we talk about the 2020s?

SPEAKER_09

Okay, so now we're gonna okay.

SPEAKER_11

Um, I'm right, you got a mic 2020.

SPEAKER_09

Hold on, give me a second. Who write for other people?

SPEAKER_08

Yes, who write for other people right now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, definitely. Oh, yeah, him making on his thing.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I know a nigga personally right now.

SPEAKER_11

With all that being said, yeah, that I don't I don't think the answer is neutral. I think I think real artists can separate an artist from a rapper.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

So when we get into that conversation, we got rappers and we got artists. We got all-around artists that perform, that produce, or have produced, wrote for themselves and for other people, and then we got people who just rap their songs.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, this shit is all subjective anyway.

SPEAKER_08

You're right. And it don't matter because if it's a hit, it don't matter who wrote it, what did what, it don't matter. Like Beyonce, Beyonce didn't write more literally nothing. Yeah. So it's just really not that shit don't matter. It'd be about that production for real. Yeah. That's true. All hits got multiple writers. Multiple people. It's no hits without multiple writers. Even if you say one word, hey, you should say this as a writer.

SPEAKER_11

Sway Lee got something on formation, and people don't even know that. He did the get information, that part right there. All my ladies get information. And he just did that whole part.

SPEAKER_09

No, Jay Jay Z wrote Steal Dre by Dr. Dre.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, but um, whoever's watching, whoever's watching, we want to know y'all's answers. It does the baby go belong in a conversation with Drake, Kendrick Lamar, or Jake? And that is Allah with the bounce.

Cheating Talk And Double Standards

SPEAKER_02

Yes. Shout out to Nola Dustin. I'm surprised that was a big thing on the big one. It broke up.

SPEAKER_11

Nobody wanna argue about if he fumbled the bag or not. I don't think he fumbled the bag.

SPEAKER_02

No. Well, while we on it.

SPEAKER_11

Everybody crazy. He's the bag. She been crazy. She cares the bag.

SPEAKER_08

I think people are lost. What? Everybody play is the bag. Play is the bag. Play in the back. It's just not no nigga that's ever been in the mix, but he's the bag. He's the bag.

SPEAKER_02

He's been the bag for multiple years.

SPEAKER_11

What I seen was she cheated first and he got his get back. That's what I said. Are we surprised with half the industry?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. But you know what?

SPEAKER_11

Everybody cheats.

SPEAKER_02

The thing that's double standard with this that somebody had brought up, and I was like, oh shit, I forgot about that. Because we forgot about it. The uh guy, was it prop Praddy, Pro Pro G. Party Party. Party, and she cheated on him with Tori and the baby. And he's openly spoke about it in a record. In a record. But nobody really said nothing about that. But as soon as we got a little video as soon as they broke up, as soon as they broke up. Yeah. Because I mean he was but hurt. He was like, he wanted to marry her and all types of shit. He was hurt by that. That's a nigga scorn. You know, guys, woman scorn, that was a nigga scorn and made a record about that shit. You know, but we done say nothing about that. But when Megan clay shit and the whole fucking world, females, is like the double standards gotta stop, bro. We gotta be both.

SPEAKER_11

I personally do. Everybody cheats a flying fuck about either one of their relationships.

SPEAKER_02

I don't either, but we gotta talk about it. You know, but we don't have to talk about it.

SPEAKER_11

Everybody cheats. Academics said you can't wipe street meat.

SPEAKER_02

You can't.

SPEAKER_11

Now academics are crazy as fuck. Shout out to A.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry to say this, but Megan, you were just a fuck. Clay just had you around during the season, fucking you, parading you around. And then once he figured out, like in that video that we posted, that he was sitting there, and she like that nigga like in his head and like, yep, this is it. You gotta go back there. I think that shit was just sorry, Megan.

SPEAKER_09

That shit was like they A and R is putting them together like that was a fake herb image because you know, yeah, that whole shit was fake.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, and and that Tory shit is not over because he didn't shoot Meg. Watch, watch, watch I tell you. Free Tory.

SPEAKER_11

Right, free Tory. I bet Megan's gonna shoot one.

What Would You Do Corner Scenario

SPEAKER_02

Oh, by the bounce breakdown by desk. Yes. What would you do? What would you do? So, my what would you do is if you're familiar with no advisory podcast, my what would you do? Are normally accounts that by me, counts that I saw, or accounts that somebody told me, and I'm gonna tell y'all. This account is something that I experienced.

SPEAKER_11

Don't he? Sound like an ad. I did that on purpose.

SPEAKER_02

So what would you do? So what would you do? And this again, it could be in a female's perspective or a male's perspective. This is a male's perspective because this is something that I've been through. So what would you do? What would you do? And and this is in reference to what would you do as females, right? What would you do? What would you do if you're on the corner? You're chilling with your guys and shit. Yeah, yeah. You know, your guys you chillin' in the corner, and this is in relation to females. You know, your niggas chilling on the corner, you know, you go by the you walk by the corner all the time. You know, it's the same niggas on the corner all the time. You know, so you ain't really, you know, you ain't really worried about it. But on this particular day, you're on the corner, you're on the corner, guys chilling, and um, and there's a guy named um Speedy, big brawlick nigga. Like, you know how sometimes in the summertime, them big diesel niggas always got their shirt offs and shit. You know what I mean? That's that nigga right there, Speedy. You know, so we're on the corner chilling, and he hollering at anything, anything, anything. He just going up to chicks, right? You know, he he bagging something, he not bagging something, you know, typical day on the block. So, ladies, what would you do? You walk in, like, damn, all right, you see Speedy and shit. Yeah, you know what's going on, he's gonna holler at you. Speedy holler at you, remember, this nigga's a big blaw like six-foot, two diesel ass nigga, right? He holler at you and you don't you don't give her no play, right? So you go in the store, you don't give her no play, like alright, you thinking everything's cool. You walk out the store and the nigga throws rice at you.

SPEAKER_11

I remember that shit.

SPEAKER_02

And he says, Even cook rice pigeon eat. Stop. What would you do as a female if you walk in out the store and you got rice thrown on you? Me first. What would you do?

SPEAKER_11

Go for it. Me first. Because I'm gonna let y'all know right now, I'm gonna end up in jail. But my first move, I'm probably gonna say some shit like, nigga, what the fuck wrong with you? Get your bitch, nigga. What the fuck your bitch at? Because I ain't slapping no man, but I would for sure slap a woman. But maybe six two. I don't give a fuck. I'm not slapping a man, but I'm still gonna talk my shit. Like, okay. That's it, that's all. Where your bitch at?

SPEAKER_02

So you're gonna talk your shit.

SPEAKER_11

Where your bitch.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Talk your shit then.

SPEAKER_11

Nah, for real. I don't I don't know. Where your bitch pigeon eat.

SPEAKER_02

Eat, pigeon, eat.

SPEAKER_11

It ain't my wedding. Fuck you throwing rice at me for, ho. I don't know. I ain't got nothing in my hand enough. I can't throw nothing back.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I mean, is it what would you do as a female? Like, you done got rice throwing on you, and he said, eat, pigeon, eat, throwing rice at you. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_11

I don't know. That's a hard one. I I'm I'm definitely I'm definitely with jazz. I'm definitely with jazz. Um, it's hard for me though, because it's hard for me because I was I was raised by my father, and he always kept that energy like, don't, don't get into it with a man unless you're ready to take a hit. And he, if he's big brawlic and big as fuck like that, if he hit me, like he's gonna have to come back and shoot him. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to come back and shoot him. So I don't want to necessarily, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Catch a body. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11

I don't wanna, and I definitely don't want to put no man that I'm with or dealing with in a situation to where they're approaching another man and we don't know what the fuck is going on with that nigga or what he got. So I might throw something back, but I I honestly, as a mature woman, I might have to take that L.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_11

I might have to take that L. And it's just because I'm looking forward. Like, I don't want to bring no nigga to the corner and there be a whole like shootout thing because I know the niggas that that fuck with me, that they they're coming.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_11

And they're not going to be happy about that conversation. And then I also know my temper.

SPEAKER_02

How you gonna tell that like the nigga threw rice at me?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I also know my temper, so it ain't gonna be the nigga threw rice at me. I'ma I'ma gas it up. I'm gonna make you mad.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_11

So I'm just gonna I might take my L.

SPEAKER_02

What would you do? What would you do, Stone? You got a mic back there? Is the mic back there? Where'd the mic at? I thought we had the mic back there. What you ask me to do on the meeting? What would you do if you come out of the store and the big six fifty big six foot two diesel ass nigga? He tried to holler at you, you go in the store, you come out, and he throws rice at your head. What you gonna do?

SPEAKER_11

No, that's what I asked too, Stony. I asked if it was.

SPEAKER_02

No, he went to the store and bought a big bag of rice just for throwing purchases. Jasmine Rice? I don't know. Just for your purpose, Jasmine Rice.

SPEAKER_07

For your scenario, Jasmine Ruff. It's longer. I might scoop it up. I ain't even gonna lie to you. You're gonna say it's a little bit. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. So not if you big and tall, he's big and tall. He threw his name with Easel.

SPEAKER_02

His name is Beasle nigga, like big brawlic ass nigga. Shirt off, muscle bam nigga. What you gonna do? It's on. Yeah, I heard you.

SPEAKER_07

I already said buck 50.

SPEAKER_02

So you're gonna bug 50 his face? Oh, Stony Gang shit. Why is you throwing rays?

SPEAKER_11

Why? Bitch, it ain't my wedding. Hi, beautiful.

SPEAKER_02

All right. Well, who else? Pass the mic.

SPEAKER_11

Diamonds out there. I asked Destiny because she always trying to swing on somebody, man. I'm wanted to get the audience.

SPEAKER_10

No, I sure am gonna swing on something.

SPEAKER_09

Anybody else? Anybody else? What would you do? I ain't gonna lie. This shit sounds like a wedding.

SPEAKER_02

Nobody else? Okay. You good? Nobody else? Okay.

SPEAKER_11

So what'd she do?

SPEAKER_02

The girl, I mean, she didn't really do nothing. She turned around, I was right there. My nigga Speedy Why. Turned around like nigga. Oh, fuck you, nigga. And she just walked off. Cause she saw this bit, cause he's crazy. Like, what you gonna do, bitch? What you gonna do? And she just walked the fuck off. Cause she, I guess it didn't want no problems. Yeah, then you know what I mean? Speedy crazy. That nigga's a crazy motherfucker. I don't know where he at now. I don't know if he's in a grave or I don't know. But yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. No, no, I didn't say he was dead. No, no, no, no. He don't know.

SPEAKER_11

She's over here killing a motherfucker. If he keeps throwing rice at bitches, he definitely rest in peace to that nigga, Speedy. Shit. Rice that people.

SPEAKER_02

That's about what would you do? What would you do? Ladies, you go and you get you reject the nigga, big brawl leg ass nigga, you reject him. You go in the store, you come out, and the nigga throw rice at you and say, Eat, pigeon eat. What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_11

What would you do? Alright, ladies and gents, it's my turn and it's time to get triggered.

SPEAKER_03

Triggered.

SPEAKER_11

Because I am here for y'all. No shade. I have two degrees in psychology, so I'm not just here to talk shit. I actually do research on the topics that I'm talking shit on, okay? So if you've been listening in April, you already know the past couple segments we've talked about transactional dating, unrealistic expectations, emotional accountability, and communication versus uh assumptions. But I feel like all of that really comes down to one thing. People are not clear. They're not clear about what they want, they're not clear about what they're doing, and they're definitely not clear about how they show up at this metaphorical table or what they bring to the metaphorical table. And that's where most of the problems start because you can't expect clarity from other people if you're moving in confusion your goddamn self. And I'm not even saying that to judge anybody because you know, all of us don't really know what we want. No shade. I'm saying it because a lot of people genuinely don't realize that they're doing it. You'll say you want something real, but you're entertaining bullshit. You'll say you want peace, but you react to everything. You'll say you want honesty, but you avoid hard conversations. I don't want to talk about it. So now your actions and your words don't match, and that creates confusion. And confusion doesn't just stay with you, it spreads to the people around you. Now, everybody is guessing, everybody's assuming, everybody is reacting instead of understanding, and that's how situations get messy. So, if we're bringing it back to what we talked about before, transactional dating and expectations, emotional accountability, all that shit, it all connects. Because when you're not clear about your expectations, you start expecting people to just figure it the fuck out. When you're not aware of your emotions, you start reacting based on how you feel instead of what's actually happening. And when you don't communicate clearly, you start assuming instead of asking. And now you've built a whole situation off of confusion. And guess what? Here's the here's the part that people don't like to hear. A lot of people don't stay confused by accident. They stay confused on purpose because clarity requires. Say your favorite word, friend.

SPEAKER_09

No accountability that women don't take ever in life.

SPEAKER_11

It was a word I didn't.

SPEAKER_09

You said I can speak.

SPEAKER_11

No, never mind. Who don't even take accountability? And once you say what you want out loud, now you have to stand on it. Now you can't move funny. Now you can't double back. Now you can't keep options open without being honest about it. And many people don't want that pressure. So instead, they stay vague. They go with the flow, they see where things go, they keep everything open so they don't have to be responsible for anything at the fuck all.

SPEAKER_05

I can dig it.

SPEAKER_11

But what most people don't understand is that freedom comes at a cost. Because now you're dealing with people who are trying to take you seriously while you're still figuring your shit out. And that's where people start getting hurt. Not always because somebody had bad intentions, but because somebody wasn't clear from the beginning. And this is where the psychology comes in. Your brain likes comfort, it likes what's familiar. So even if something isn't good for you, if it feels familiar, you'll keep choosing it. And that's why people end up in the same situation over and over again with different people. It's not always them. We have to be realistic and understand that we attract different variations of ourselves. Or sometimes it's the pattern you haven't broken yet. So I'm gonna double back and say this is where emotional accountability starts to, you know, make its rounds again. Because you have to be able to look at yourself and say, Am I actually clear about what I want? Am I communicating clearly? Or am I expecting people to just figure the shit out? And that's not easy. Because it requires you to admit that you might be part of the problem, or you might be the problem itself. And most people would rather blame somebody else than sit with the fact that they're the issue. But if you don't take accountability, nothing is gonna change. You just keep repeating the same cycle over and over again. So before you go into your next situation, your next conversation, your next connection, ask yourself this. Am I being clear or am I being convenient? Am I saying what I mean, or am I leaving room so I don't have to commit fully? Another C. Am I reacting or am I actually thinking about how I show up? Because those small things change everything. And if you really want better situations, connections, outcomes, it doesn't start with other people. Let's be clear, it starts with you. Oh my god. So we're gonna have a quick chat for a moment before my segment ends. And be honest, are you actually confused about what's going on in your life right now? Or are you avoiding being clear because you don't want to deal with the outcome?

SPEAKER_02

Damn, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_11

Confusion is expensive. And most of us don't most of us are paying for it with our time, with our energy, and with our peace. So again, I'm gonna ask you, are you confused about what's going on in your life? Or are you just avoiding being clear because you don't want to deal with the outcome?

SPEAKER_02

I I start off. I think everybody has a little bit of both in them, depending on the situation. And I'm gonna just leave it there.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

You think it varies based on the situation?

SPEAKER_02

It varies, it varies based based on situation. Yeah. I don't want to go into depth with it, but yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Every time you get hit with like um an issue or a conflict or a problem, do you address it immediately or you wait?

SPEAKER_02

Depends on what the problem is. And if it needs to be addressed right in and there, or I can wait.

SPEAKER_09

Yo, that nigga is cat. Facts. That's a fact, though.

SPEAKER_02

I'm cat. That's true. I mean That ain't true.

SPEAKER_11

You do gotta look at the situation and it's depends on the severity of the situation.

SPEAKER_02

Like, yo, this shit gotta be addressed now. If not, uh we listen. Right now, I gotta talk to you later. I guess. You'll talk about we talk about that later. Depends on the severity of the shit. And everybody's gonna have that. Everybody has that.

SPEAKER_11

Okay. And do you feel like there's a lot of things where you get, and it's not just for CEO. You feel like there's a lot of instances where you see red flags, but you avoid the red flags because you built up um a fantasy of what you want. Because women, women have a tendency of dating for the future. Dating based on what they want from a person, not dating based on what they have. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. We don't do that around here.

SPEAKER_09

I don't, I don't, I don't see like red flags that I consider red flags, but I could see I see red flags that would be considered red flag to other people, but I I run towards the red flags.

SPEAKER_10

You like her, bitch.

SPEAKER_00

I was about to say you like her bitch.

SPEAKER_09

Says the nigga with the red hat on. I'm just saying, I'm gonna run towards the red flag sometimes. Like bitch a little crazy, a bitch a little bit might have one, miss might might have nine toes or some shit. I might run towards that. Like nine toes? That's nasty work.

SPEAKER_11

That's wild. I mean, it's common though. I thought it was supposed to be like 10, ain't it? No, yeah. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_11

You ain't gotta let us know you're slow all the time. Damn. It is 10 toes. Anybody else to work right now? Anybody else got got a response? I know it's a little touchy because a lot of people don't want to admit the shit that they got going on. And it's no shade. I ain't not I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna hear what I want to hear what Jazz got to say about it.

SPEAKER_11

I I don't haven't been in a relationship. Oh, I'm like, it is too jazz.

SPEAKER_02

This is clutch. I'm Jazz. I meant to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Talking about red flags. I ain't gonna lie. You know, if it makes sense, you're gonna go through whatever flags it takes. You feel me? That's all I'm gonna say. Surreal shit. If you make a nigga feel good, nigga go ignore everything. You know what, man, you just crazy as hell. That's horrible.

SPEAKER_02

So you like ignore you you will ignore the plague.

SPEAKER_08

Until it's no longer beneficial. Then after that, beat it. Beat it. I beat it. Kick rock.

SPEAKER_11

So I feel like you dad. Um, so I was just saying, like, I don't know. Are we talking about just based on relationships? Because y'all know I'm a single forever, bitch. I don't even know what to say. I can't even contribute. Relationships, but relationships can be friendships. I think that for me, like I'm I'm working on not speaking so much up front. I'm just taking a step back. Um my family, my friends, you know, little shit. So it's like not just being so reactive. So I think that in the past I have been one to just let me like, let's talk about it now because now is when I'm feeling it. But really, you have to think about the other person that's involved too, because maybe they're not ready to talk about it, or maybe they're just like not pressed as you. It's bothering myself, but it's probably not even bothering them as much. But I'm quick to be like, well, let's figure it out now because I don't want it to fester. Because I've seen those person.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, baby. I'll be pressed as hell. I'll be ready to talk right now.

SPEAKER_04

Me as fun.

SPEAKER_08

I ain't trying to wait. I don't like that fake shit because people are just keep waiting and waiting. Hold on, they feel something waiting. I mean, I'd rather just tell you now.

SPEAKER_09

Depending on if it's eating me up, it's eating me up.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, if it's eating me up, I gotta say something. I can't eat at regular.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I gotta say it.

SPEAKER_11

No, I got patience.

SPEAKER_02

See, but you see what they say. If it's eating them up, say now, if not.

SPEAKER_11

I got patience. You know how to let that shit simmer in your anybody that has ever dealt with me knows that I will stack shit up. That's what I'm saying. You dangerous. I stack shit up. And then once it comes to the time when you maybe want to say something on something, or or maybe you just want to start an argument just so we can argue. Oh, bet, bitch. Bet I got you. I used to do that.

SPEAKER_09

I had a girl out there before.

SPEAKER_11

It's not good to keep things in.

SPEAKER_09

I've been pulse. I gotta get that shit off of it.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, that's my son told me. I used to do that. I used to hold shit in and keep and she's keeping it. No, it's cutting shit up and keep building shit. It's not holding it in though. That shit right away. No, like Jazz says, you can address it without making it an issue. You can be like, I don't like how you did that. Or, you know, don't don't do that to me. I'm not feeling that. Ain't nobody trying to argue. Yeah, you can keep it at that, but I'm talking about as far as like if you do something and it becomes like a pattern, I'm just gonna keep it in the back of my head. Cause I am a firm believer in that not everything deserves a response.

SPEAKER_09

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_11

Sometimes I agree.

SPEAKER_08

But the red flag with it is when you get fed up, then you just be done with it the whole time the person didn't even know it's a problem. You feel what I'm saying? That's the only like bad part about that. That's why I just address it in the beginning, so you already know how I feel. Okay, if you keep doing it, I already told you I don't like it.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, that's a fact, too. That's a fact. It is, but sometimes people do things not on purpose, but like it's like fueling the fire sometimes. So if you do say something, that's just gonna bring it up more, like ignite it far higher. And that's the only way I can kind of think of it, is just like sprinkling water on a flame. Um, sometimes you have to just remove that water, don't even plant them seeds. You know how this person is, you know their characteristics. So why even address it, you know, in certain moments? So I guess it just depends on the relationship.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

A hundred percent. Yeah. Because at the same time, I've said it before, but I'll say it again you can only control what you do and what you say. You can't control the other person. So you might say something that triggers that person. That person is about to go off the wall just based on one or two things that you said. Because they either associate it with a past relationship or associate it with some type of trauma that they haven't dealt with. So sometimes it's good to kind of like sit back, reflect, look at the situation, maybe replay it in your head and say something later on. Or if it's something where it's like non-negotiable and you gotta nip that shit in the butt, say it then and set your boundaries. But at the same time, you gotta be clear with it and you gotta stand on it. You can't flip-flop. You can't say something one time and then the next time it happens, you don't say nothing at all.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

Words Of The Week Vocabulary Game

SPEAKER_11

Because that's when people get comfortable. If you let somebody do something once, they're gonna keep doing it. Because you already allowed them to do it. So again, y'all, my name is Lex Rated. And if that hit a little too close to home, come sit with us next week and let's get into it. I'm gonna have all new topics next month because we are about to start May. If I put a goddamn poll. If I drop a poll on my story about topics, y'all, y'all gotta, y'all gotta come on now. I don't want to keep talking about the stuff that I like to talk about because eventually some of y'all gonna really be triggered about what I got to say. So it might. They need to be triggered. Everybody should be triggered. I mean, speak that shit, friend. The biggest motherfucking Aquarius. You know, it's the one and only Jasmine like the motherfucker. Jasmine like the motherfuckers. And it's it's um words of the week, the segment where we dress your vocabulary in soup, we talk nice, but we spice it up a bit, and we make you the smartest at brunch.

SPEAKER_09

Yes.

SPEAKER_11

Uh-huh. You guys ready? We ready. Listen to the words of the week.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_11

No cheat hands.

SPEAKER_09

I like your lashes.

SPEAKER_11

Thank you. My mom always says I look like a butterfly or a caterpillar. So why you got them bugs on your eyes?

SPEAKER_00

Y'all chewing all something. Like, what's going on in this motherboard? Cass, I'm hungry as hell.

SPEAKER_11

Yo. Y'all funny as hell. The first word that we're gonna get into today is capricious. Capricious. Capricious is spelled C-A-P-R-I-C-I-O-U-S. And it's an adjective. Capricious. What's that? Capricious. An adjective describes a person, place, or a thing. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Capricious.

SPEAKER_11

So the word comes from the Italian word capricio, meaning possibly possibly from a goat.

SPEAKER_10

A goat?

SPEAKER_11

So the goat is known for the erratic behavior and jumping. So it's like they're very erratic and they're always jumping. So this word capricio, which is the Italian caprice. Yeah. But capricious is the actual word. Yeah. I think capricious means um, I don't want to say spirit of moment, but or use erratic since you just said it. But somebody that is unpredictable, you don't know what they're gonna do, they're all over the place.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, friend. You got a big ass brain. Big ass brain. Does anybody else want to take any guesses?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I think that's got no big brain. Yeah, I think that's it. Based off the root verb. You said the goat and the goat.

SPEAKER_09

I'm gonna say somebody who likes a lot of caprice sons.

SPEAKER_11

That's why I said good answer. Let me swish over there. Good answer. Good answer. Capricious. Capricious. They love some Capri sons. Yeah. Fuck it. That's a good answer. Capri, I mean, but Capri, you know, I see. C A D Okay. No. No. All right. Okay, so basically the word, pretty much Lex, is unpredictable or quick to change moods or behavior. We should start knowing somebody that got that split personality, that Gemini. No, he always cheated. Definitely Gemini. We don't like cheaters. I love Gemini. Cheaters never win, and winners never quit. Always remember that. We should start taking scores so I can flex on y'all, idiots. No, for real. I really have so many words. So unpredictable or quick to change moods. Does anybody want to try to use capricious in a sentence before I do my sentence?

SPEAKER_09

That bitch got hella capricious. Unpredictable. That bitch got hella capricious out of nowhere.

unknown

Oh my god, yes.

SPEAKER_09

I just nutted in you yesterday, now you act capricious today.

SPEAKER_08

Wait, say it again. You know what? I really like this girl, but I don't like her capricious ways. That bitch too moody. Dead on me.

SPEAKER_11

I'm gonna go tell Jimmy, I'm like, you real capricious right now. Facts. Like the fuck? I've been to dancing.

SPEAKER_06

Rap, capricious, and you brought up rap.

SPEAKER_11

My sentence. Capricious. My sentence is they say the music industry. Uh-uh, Langstin. Quiet on a second.

SPEAKER_03

This bitch's capricious.

SPEAKER_11

These bitches is capricious. Shit, I'm a cancer. They always say I'm moody as fuck. So I guess I'm capricious too, goddamn it. I'm finna start killing it. But my sentence is they say the music industry can be capricious. You really have to stay grounded. Because you know it'll just be all over the place. You can hear it everywhere. Alright. So the next word we're gonna get into today is going to be morose. I like your eyebrows. Your eyebrows are nice too. Thank you. Morose. M-O-R-O-S-E. It's an adjective as well. Morose. It's pronounced morose, even though it's it says rose, okay? But it's from the Latin word moroses, meaning sullen.

SPEAKER_09

I know what it means.

SPEAKER_11

Peevish.

SPEAKER_09

I know what it means.

SPEAKER_11

And if I say the last one, y'all gonna know what it's saying. I know what it means. So it's some that a female.

SPEAKER_09

No, don't say the last one. It's to seduce somebody with wine. To seduce somebody with wine.

SPEAKER_11

Sullen or peevish. So it's pretty much like tied to having like a withdrawn mood. Oh my god. A withdrawn mood. You always cheating, but I wrote sloppy. I told you that. I'll start to write sloppy as well.

SPEAKER_09

That's smooth, that's smooth.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, chicken scratch. He understands that he writes sloppy. I understand that's a good thing. Uncontrolled mood. Oh, you're gonna say definitely. It's basically, nope, this one is basically um from the Latin word morosis, meaning sullen or peevish. And it's often tied to like a withdrawn mood.

unknown

Melancholy.

SPEAKER_11

Like melancholy. You have a microphone now. Melancholy.

SPEAKER_02

That's another fucking word of the week. I swear to God.

SPEAKER_11

Melancholy. I'm feeling very melancholy right now. That's how um Eeyore used to feel all the time from Winnie the Pooh. Y'all used to watch me at Winnie the Pooh.

SPEAKER_08

Eeyore, Igor.

SPEAKER_00

I don't remember.

SPEAKER_08

Y'all know what the fuck his name was. I was feeling this committee relationship, but now I'm starting to feel a sense of Melrose.

SPEAKER_11

What you gonna feel? It's no ring. That's like the second or third thing that you said about a relationship. I was like, I ain't gonna lie, guys.

SPEAKER_12

I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03

She said she ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_10

You're not the red legs. She's the way are we supposed to use that?

SPEAKER_11

So she says that.

SPEAKER_09

It's to seduce somebody with wand though, right?

SPEAKER_11

So yeah, pretty much the definition is gloomy, sullen, or having like a low mood. So somebody that's like, you know, just kind of low energy, just like not really negative, but just like in their own space or zone, you know. And withdrawn usually means like they were at one point at baseline, but now they under baseline. Like, you know, you've seen them chill, but now they're super withdrawn. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um that's you when you don't smoke.

SPEAKER_11

That was me last week. I'm gonna I'm gonna admit that. That was me last week. I was like this. Damn, not a fiend.

SPEAKER_02

She was a fiend. She was like, puffing and puffing.

SPEAKER_11

I have no weird.

SPEAKER_02

All types of moods. I was like, you okay, James?

SPEAKER_11

She was happy as hell. All right, y'all know we don't color people time. Some of my friends from Harvard are walking in the door right now.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, what up, C T. They're not here, but they're coming in. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_11

All right. So um I would say I've had um morose days, but even then I refuse to stay stuck there.

SPEAKER_12

Okay.

SPEAKER_11

So even times where I felt like that, withdrawn, sunk in, you know, I ain't even been here long, so I've had five of them since I've been here in ten months.

SPEAKER_02

Shit.

SPEAKER_11

But I I moved past it. Having morose days where I just felt withdrawn.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, one every two months.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, one every two months. Just mess at home and shit. But I don't like people, so I go through it every day. Oh friend. You don't like me? I just met you. You have relationship issues. I don't know. I'm a fur. Oh, wait, wait, what's your sign? What's your sign?

SPEAKER_02

Virgo. Virgo. Virgo. My brother's a Virgo. Shout out to Virgo. My sister's Virgo. That's my right hand.

SPEAKER_11

Shout out to you, Elevate A. Uh huh. My baby girl. All right. So the next word we're gonna get into today is sanguid. And sanguid is spelled S-A-Nguid. G-U-I-N-E. Sanguid. And it's an adjective. Sanguid. Everybody heard the doorbell. Yeah, this nigga ain't gonna open the door.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay, they get it.

SPEAKER_11

The Latin word that it's derived from is sanguis, meaning blood. But in ancient times and theories, sanguid meant to have a lively temperament. Okay, you know, it was like it was linked to just being positive.

SPEAKER_12

Okay.

SPEAKER_11

So does anybody want to take any? I don't know. I I didn't do too much research on the blood part. Sanguid. Sanguid is basically tied to um having a lively temperament.

SPEAKER_02

That's weird as fuck.

SPEAKER_11

She has a very secret personality when it comes to reaching her ghost. We can't hear you, friend.

SPEAKER_08

She has a favorite, she has a very secret personality when it comes to reaching her ghost. Okay. Yeah. I got college degree. That's a bar. That's a bar.

SPEAKER_02

Put that in your next song. That's a bar.

SPEAKER_08

I wrote that down on the word capricious too. I wrote that down too. That's a bar. Okay. I need to start reading the damn dick.

SPEAKER_11

So the definition to this word sanguine is basically calmly, confident, and optimistic, even in tough situations. Come on in, Harford. What's up, y'all? Harford in the Belgian.

SPEAKER_12

Harford in the Belgi.

SPEAKER_11

Y'all. So um I would say, um, even when everything felt uncertain, I stayed sanguine and I just kept pushing. You know, just put my head down and kept going. Sanguid. It's spelled S-A-N-G-U-I-N-E.

SPEAKER_02

Sanguid.

SPEAKER_11

Alright. And I have one other word for us today. And this one is a doozy. I always gotta do the doozy. The doozy. The doozy. So the last word today we're gonna get into is ubiquitous.

SPEAKER_12

Ubidaquis.

SPEAKER_11

Bitter ass bitch. Ubidaquis. And it's spelled. U B. Wait, let me tell you what it's how it's spelled. U B I Q U I T O U S adjective. Oh, adjective. Ubidiquis. Ubiquis. Ubidiquis. What's the root word? The root word is Latin and it's from ubique, meaning everywhere. But then it developed into medieval Latin. Ubiqu ubiquas. And that means presence everywhere. Oh. So that's like what I be doing, ripping and running and shit. I'm right, but what does ubiquous mean though? It means you're everywhere. Somebody that's ripping and running.

SPEAKER_10

I'm really always doing it.

SPEAKER_11

I don't know how I was ripping and running. I was in four states in the last seven days. And it's an adjective? It's an adjective, ubiquitous. Ripping it. I mean, maybe it means you're all over the place. Scatter brain can't sit still. Okay, I like that. That's a pretty good guess. Do we have a microphone for now? Because we gotta get my girl. She's a linguist. She is a linguist, which means someone who um is that like big words, right?

SPEAKER_09

I thought it meant.

SPEAKER_11

It does not mean pussy friends. It does not mean pussy.

SPEAKER_12

The word Ubiquis.

SPEAKER_11

Ubiquis. U B I Q I T O U S.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Ubiquis, I'm assuming it's like an aura of something sort.

SPEAKER_09

That was a good one.

SPEAKER_11

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know. Hey.

SPEAKER_11

That was a good guess. Um, I'm gonna just tell you guys the definition is being everywhere at once and being constantly seen. So that's where it's pretty much like um running. It's like just having that presence everywhere. So even if you're not there, somebody can feel your presence.

SPEAKER_09

I don't pull some shit off.

SPEAKER_11

I'm somewhere else right now. You ain't even know it. I mean, you do be everywhere, but nowhere. Nowhere and everywhere. If I was to use this word in the sentence ubiquitous, I would say people think that success is ubiquitous when in reality it's not. Because a lot of the times less is more. Like your success shouldn't be everywhere whenever. And for everybody to see. That shit is not on display. It is what it is. I see it. Okay. So thank you guys for tuning in to Words of the Boot. And hope you guys learned something today. And I just want to make sure that you guys are the smartest at birth.

SPEAKER_09

I feel smarter. I smell smarter.

SPEAKER_02

I feel smarter. Dumb as hell. I smell smart as hell. Especially a lot of y'all YNs. Y'all niggas is dumb as hell, nigga.

SPEAKER_11

Don't come for the YN.

SPEAKER_09

Them niggas is stupid.

SPEAKER_11

And switch your YN when the folks come home.

SPEAKER_09

Switchy, no switchy B there. When y'all pull the switchy out, I ain't say that.

SPEAKER_03

I don't even know who it be.

SPEAKER_09

Switch the Y N. So you don't believe we need the Y N. I fuck with the Y N, man.

SPEAKER_02

Don't be around dumb as hell. I used to be the one dumb as hell. My daughter of Y N. Daughter Y N. No, that's not a YN. My is four. She'll Y. Oh shit Y N he said. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_11

All right, y'all.

Guest Arrival And Setup

SPEAKER_02

All right now. So listen, man, we have a very motherfucking special guest in the building. She out here moving and shaking, shaking and moving.

SPEAKER_12

She out here battling y'all niggas and deaf men and females.

Jazz Clutch On Brand And Independence

SPEAKER_02

Barring, barring, bars, bars. You say nobody didn't get that? I got it. Some of us did. I got it. Okay, y'all didn't get that, then y'all gonna get this. Dumb motherfuckers. Hey young trash, we're gonna bring you on the advisor. Mother advisory. We're gonna ask you three simple questions. Just three. Okay, that's it. You ready? Who you are, where you from, and what the fuck you do?

SPEAKER_08

You want me to answer them right now? Yeah. Yup. Gotta answer the motherfucking question. My name's Jack Clutch. I'm from Henderson, North Carolina. And I do everything. Little country. You from North Carolina? See, she little country ass nigga with a Kool-Aid smile.

SPEAKER_02

So you say you from Henderson, North Carolina, right? Yeah. They're like two and a half hours away.

SPEAKER_08

14,000. No, it's not. Yeah, I swear, Google it. It's 14,000 people in the city.

SPEAKER_10

That shit said by that there like that.

SPEAKER_08

That shit like that shit like down like going past Raleigh, Wake Forest, Lewisburg. You from right there. Like type shit. And 14,000 people. It's 14,000 people out there. It probably only like 6,000 black, probably. Like she's gonna Google it. She's gonna tell you. Right there.

SPEAKER_11

15,600. It must have gone up a little bit. And that was in 2020. And the black can be. That's a terrible name. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_02

Niggas get killed too much of that, bitch. That one that shit can't populate.

SPEAKER_11

Population control.

SPEAKER_02

So it's probably for every every uh the old niggas surviving, but them young niggas killing each other, so the population.

SPEAKER_11

That's really how that shit going. I definitely feel like the Wyans have no value for life, man, nowadays. Awkward silence. So, Jess, if someone from your childhood describes you by your music or before your music, excuse me, what would they say?

SPEAKER_08

Um, goofy. I have to say that right. Stand on business. I used to be out there with the niggas hooping and shit. I used to fight niggas. So yeah, that's what they'll say.

SPEAKER_11

All Jasmine's a little bit crazy. I ain't gonna like it.

SPEAKER_02

If you go ball, you need to come be on our team. Nah, for real. I'm trying to win this shit.

SPEAKER_08

I just said I'm gonna start playing a little bit just for a hobby, you know what I'm saying? Listen, clutch. Housing and celebrity basketball.

SPEAKER_02

You don't really want to be able to do that. June 21st. So then they said, June 21st, about to put your ass on the team. You should never said that shit, because now you on the team. I'm outside. You outside? Yeah, I'm gonna just put me on whoever team.

SPEAKER_08

You on no advisory team? I'm gonna start. Huh? Trials? Why are you balling?

SPEAKER_11

If you say you're nice, you're gonna be a big one. 100%. Say less, come represent the city.

SPEAKER_12

Can you say it, Charlotte?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We just got an NBA play.

SPEAKER_11

Okay.

SPEAKER_09

We just got an NBA player on the TV.

SPEAKER_11

Looking like Derek Rose over here. Alright, alright.

SPEAKER_02

We're gonna talk after the yeah. Please, don't you? Okay.

SPEAKER_11

Piggy backing off. Back to her interview, y'all. Clutch. You keep calling her Jazz and I'm not sure. I'm sorry. So we're gonna do this.

SPEAKER_02

This is Clutch and this Jazz. Right. I know.

SPEAKER_11

So piggybacking off of Let's question. If someone is just now discovering you, what is the first song they need to hear and why?

SPEAKER_06

Oh.

SPEAKER_08

Oh probably like, yeah, it's a good day in the trap. Thank the Lord. I'm feeling blessed. Probably that one. Yeah, that's just a shit. I keep a boat by the pound. Yeah. That's like an everybody song. It's a feel good song. You can play that in the morning throughout the day.

SPEAKER_11

Whenever you're gonna do it, so you don't want them to start with finger licking?

SPEAKER_08

Oh yeah, that's my shit too. But I made that just bullshit and though. I actually I'm actually gonna shoot a video to that and I'm gonna I'm thinking about somebody I wanna put on it. So I'm like gonna redrop it again. So but all that shit coming cause like some people just now discover my music. So, you know, a lot of this shit new. I don't got I got some new singles, but I got new tapes dropping for like my new sound and shit. Talk about the new sound. I mean, it's just really like probably like the last like nine months to a year, I probably like really found my sound, like confident. Like at first, the first two years I was just trying shit out. Yeah, I think I never rapped before. I never been on the mic, never been in the studio. So you know you're doing that, you just trying shit out. But like when you get confident and you feel where you then it's like alright, boom. Like now it's oh you feel me.

SPEAKER_02

Like But it's important you you said that, right? Because we have artists on here and we talk about like what is the well, you can't say Charlotte sound, but you and nowhere from now.

SPEAKER_08

I don't sound like that either. Niggas niggas be thinking, but off my music, some some niggas be thinking I'm from Detroit, like on some like popping shit, give money shit, like because I don't got no North Carolina swag, no nothing. It's like country south, give money swag. There's no swag like mine though. Don't nobody even sound like me. You feel me? So it's like I stand on that that part, you feel me?

SPEAKER_11

I I definitely agree. Um, that's why I had to I I wanted you to get on here, honestly, because we talk about, we talk to different artists and stuff like that, and when it comes to people that are from here, you're just not moving like that. Like we well, as far as like moving the soul, making you feel that music. So when I do listen to your music, I feel the realness. I know that you come from more of a hood background, such as myself. A lot of people think that Hartford is just like this little, you know, bougie ass town, because we in Connecticut, but really it's a hood everywhere. And you can hear it in your music. Say that again on the mic. I heard about the heard about who?

SPEAKER_08

I heard about the Harper. I heard about that. Oh they didn't hit me up before to try to boot me. They didn't hit me up to try to boot me before, but it just ain't never go through. Okay.

SPEAKER_09

So that's dope.

SPEAKER_11

Well, listen, we got Harford here now in Charlotte, so that's what it is. But I have a question. Um, do you feel like you um represent a community, or do you feel like you're just living your truth and you're letting people relate to it after?

SPEAKER_08

I'm just me. Like I got my like I really feel like my name, my brand bigger than the music. Like, I got songs people put in the clubs and shit, but I still ain't like trap nigga is gonna be a it's easy, you feel I'm saying? And probably by the end of the year you'll see why I say that. You feel what I'm saying? But that that shit take time. But overall the music, like my name and my brand, like I stand for something, you feel me? I really be outside with the people. You feel me? Like It's shit authentic. When you see me, I'm really here. I'm not doing this and doing that. Like I'm in the club with twenty, thirty bands on me, ain't no nigga gonna touch me. You feel what I'm saying? Like you feel them. Like not even on no can't nothing happen to me shit, but it's just on some shit like I I'm really like in real life, you gon' see me in real life. You feel I'm saying, so it's just like it's the brand, it's just as big as the music for real. Which is why my shit gonna last, you feel me?

SPEAKER_11

So what does being independent actually mean to you b beyond the music industry?

SPEAKER_08

Oh, it just means self-sufficient, because I mean like when you spending money on something and you're not getting everything you spend it back, nobody wants to do that. In the streets, you spend your money, you know you're gonna get it back if you spend it in the right place. If you invest in, you spend your money, you do your little due diligence, you know you're gonna get it back in the right place. If you do hair, you spend your money on products with the hoop, you know you when you do these heads, you're gonna get your money back. But in the music, you spend that money and you just grinding until you see you're gonna get that shit back. And that's just more like over like a uh like that's a real dream. You gotta chase like a lot of niggas end up giving up when they spending their own personal money. Cause that shit is expensive. I'm the first to tell you that shit is expensive, and it can get frustrated when you ain't in your vibe. It's just it's a lot, you feel me? Like, you feel me? It's a lot for anybody, no matter what level you on. But being independent shows that like with the type of buds I have, like, eventually it's gonna be when when my shit click, it's gonna be just as big as niggas who sign, cause my shit clicking without nothing. You feel what I'm saying? I don't have no budget, no sponsors, no, no nothing. It's just me and my small team, you feel me?

SPEAKER_09

So when this shit click, so you don't you don't feel like it's clicking yet because you so locked up.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, it's clicking, it's it's clicking, it's coming. Like niggas is hitting, you feel I'm saying. You feel what I'm saying? But that shit like still like it's still, we still grinding. Yeah, we still grinding. We still I'm still not where I need to be to get to where I'm trying to go. So until I get there, I'm still grinding. It don't matter about no clout, who knows? This shit don't matter. We're trying to be like the biggest of the biggest, and that means that like we until we get there, we grind it every day until we get there.

SPEAKER_09

You feel me? So what so yeah, would you sign to a major or would you like just crazy just gonna like yeah if the money makes sense, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Like, cause I mean, independent is cool, but if you're gonna be a superstar, it ain't nothing wrong with partnering. It's a lot of different partnerships now, like where even if you sign, you can still own your music. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the new wave right now. Ain't nobody really signing no more giving their music away. Everything is partnerships now. You feel what I'm saying? And I'll be down if I just give my music away after I can really prove how much I really spent. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, I just need a little partnership, you know?

SPEAKER_09

It's coming. I can take it. You feel me? What's your uh what's your studio process like? You uh you freestyle, you go in there and punch in?

SPEAKER_08

Um I'm not a punch-in nigga. Um I will though, sometimes like like it's songs like Trap of the Year. We made that on the spot in like 45 minutes. It's different songs, yeah. But my vibe, like when I'm personally going to sit there working on records, like personally, and when I get in with other rappers, of course it's on the spot. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like we just chose to come here at this time. But it's like when I'm doing shit, I'm like now lately down, I done found my sound. I'm stunning your beats. I'm writing shit down. So like I might not write the whole song, but I'm writing now lines. I'm writing now shit to come in my head. I'm configuring that shit together. I'm already doing my homework on the beat before I go to the studio, cause that shit costs. You've been there for two. I learned my lesson. I've been there, bitch, for two hours. Can't think of shit. I done wasted$140. You feel what I'm saying? Done with this shit. You feel me? So I'm at least getting the start of the song out. Once I get that out, I'm good. You feel me? Like a snowball. But sometimes I'll fuck around and write almost the whole song. Cause your thought process really is what you can hear it in the music. Niggas, oh, I don't write. I punch in. Yeah, bitch, you sound like it. Cause you keep saying the same shit over and over again. You feel me? Like that shit is not a flex. You feel me? When you really taking your time and writing that shit, you ain't motherfuckers feeling it. Or if you just sitting there and you writing it on the spot, but I don't got the time to write on the spot. But niggas like the baby and shit, he got his own in-house production. He can sit right there and take his time and write on the spot. But until I get to that level where I got all the time to write around the spot and I'm on the budget, I'm on the clock. Oh, I'm doing my homework for I go in that motherfucker. You feel me?

Studio Process And Industry Gimmicks

SPEAKER_11

So I have a quick question. Um, what is one subject, topic, anything that you refuse to rap about or rap like, even if it was to go viral?

SPEAKER_08

Just weird ass shit, man. I ain't doing no weird shit to go viral. You feel I'm saying? Just anything to go against what I believe in or what I stand for. Like, fancy, like just doing stupid shit like just to go viral. Like, I'll make an ass up. Oh, niggas with the little Fredo Bank shit. When he had that little weird shit going on, oh, you should do this. Have some marketing people, oh, you should do this, let him do that. I'm like, bro, I'm not doing that shit. Like, I got real niggas in the streets who fuck with me. I got niggas in the feds, niggas in the I'm not doing this weird ass, goofy ass, gay shit that he into and all this shit to go viral. I'm not doing that shit. You feel me? I stand for way more than that. So like that's shit I ain't going for. Shit, I don't believe in. You feel me? Like, I ain't doing no weird fuck shit to go viral. You feel me?

SPEAKER_11

Like sexy rat?

unknown

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_08

Nah.

SPEAKER_02

Nah.

SPEAKER_11

She said, nah. What about Maya P? I don't even know who that is.

SPEAKER_08

I don't even know who that is. Maya P I don't know who that is. Yeah, but that's TikTok music. You ain't only you don't even hear her name no more. That's why I don't even know who she is. Yeah, facts. You feel me?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, that one song.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I just make real shit. You feel me? And I and I got some hits too. But other than that, I just make real authentic music. You feel me?

SPEAKER_02

Let's talk about the hits, right? So you got well one of your earlier singles, Whole Lot, with um Finesse Two Times. Yeah, I don't really like that song though. How was it working with Finesse? I heard a lot of stories about finesse. So I want to hear the story from you. I wasn't working with this.

SPEAKER_08

It's an interesting individual. That's really all I can say about him. I actually just seen him not long ago. And it was just it was mutual. But he's just interesting. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_02

He's very interesting.

SPEAKER_08

That's all I really can say. He's a lot of interesting shit. That's really all I can say about him. So, you know, some niggas really don't really come from shit. So you can't really be like surprised when they act a certain way. You feel me?

SPEAKER_11

You're not a real nigga. I feel what I'm saying, though.

SPEAKER_08

I don't weak as fuck. You made a joke. That's an example of what he's doing to stay relevant. Look at all the shit he's doing to stay relevant. That goes back to what I say. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

No goofy shit.

unknown

I'm winged.

SPEAKER_11

So you pictured on um platforms like on the radar and from the block. How important are those platforms for independent artists right now?

SPEAKER_08

Oh, it's good because it's like shit. It's really kind of hard to get up with that nigga Zay. Yeah, how is that experience? Zay my nigga though. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I got up with Zay just off of some. It's all about relations and that music shit too. From a mutual like person. And then when we got up, shit, he let me directly with Gabe. Like, Gabe, my nigga too. That's a nigga who owned on the radar. So like I don't really go through niggas. I go through the main niggas. You feel what I'm saying? So like I got like three on the radar is about to drop within the next month or so. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, it's just like, I mean, shit, I ain't gonna lie, I'm humble to do it because they don't just fuck with anybody. Cause a lot of labels go through them. You feel what I'm saying? So like the shit I be doing, like I'm definitely thankful for having the relationships with them and them fucking with me and like growing with me and stuff from like the beginning to like now. You know what I'm saying? Like they even seeing the difference, you know.

SPEAKER_11

So you definitely seem very humble, um, super genuine. Um, and I know you're about your craft. So if you could battle anybody in Charlotte, battle rap, dead or alive, who would that person be and why?

SPEAKER_08

I don't think I'm a battle rapper, but I'm just saying, if you had to go up. If I had to go tip for tat, um Charlotte rappers?

SPEAKER_02

Dead or alive, Charlotte rappers.

SPEAKER_11

Charlotte, North Carolina. Who the fuck popping out here?

SPEAKER_02

A lot of them niggas. That's really good.

SPEAKER_11

Like if I had to battle somebody catalog up against your catalog type of shit. This is no advice, man.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know. I'm still I'm still kind of new, so I'm trying to think, like, oh shit, my catalog ain't even that damn big. Shit. I was just, yeah, I need to drop some tapes. But um, I don't really know. I ain't gonna lie. I'm buying it. I'm too humble, y'all. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Cause like where I'm from, like, I'm the only person really like that in wrapped, like, on this scale. When I start coming to Charlotte and shit, I start seeing more people, but like from where I'm from, it's really nobody. Like, I really not saying it like that, I'm just saying, though. Like, on a high scale, like to seeing the baby that made it already, they don't really count.

SPEAKER_02

You feel me?

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like from Henderson, who other than you is from Henderson?

SPEAKER_08

Because I've never heard of Henderson. I mean, my my little homie badass Ray. I did a song with him. Badass Ray? Yeah, Lil Yan, he followed. I went Y? I went to his.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit, badass Ray.

SPEAKER_08

I went to this tried a little video with him and his click. You feel me? He liked that though, but he he talented. But yeah, um, yeah, him. Um trying to think. You got a nigga that ain't Drew from the news, he fell. It's a couple of niggas fight, it just it just be like separating, you know, the.

SPEAKER_02

So how would you feel, right? Like, because obviously it seems like there's nobody from Henderson on the map.

SPEAKER_08

Like, yeah, ain't nobody ever did no shit from the city.

SPEAKER_02

So how would you feel like just being the first person from Henderson, North Carolina, yeah, to get in the city?

SPEAKER_08

Well, I am the first person. I'm the first person to do a lot of shit, you feel me? So, I mean, but that don't mean shit to me. It means some to like where you from, because they like, damn, we never seen nobody do that. But we trying to go on superstar level, so that shit don't mean nothing to me, but I do appreciate it. But it's like shit, I'm gonna be the first, first person, like really where I'm from, like small ass little city. You feel me? And then it that shit reaches to the RDU, cause that's where we party at, you feel me? So it's like I ain't once I once I graduated high school from Henson, I ain't lived in Henson since. You feel what I'm saying? So, but that RDU is your next area, but you still really can't say nobody really from that area. That's your main area right there close to Henson. But shit, you still can't say really shit from there either. Like, as far as that area, like shit. I don't really see, you know what I'm saying, nobody else type shit right now.

SPEAKER_02

Henderson, North Carolina. Speaking of cities, what three cities would you like to perform in if you haven't already?

SPEAKER_08

Dallas, um, they top of my list. Cause on they and my listeners, they number three. Um, Houston, they number four. And Chicago, they number five. I don't know how. I don't know how Chicago been fucking with me so long, but like they really fuck with me heavy. I don't know what it is. We gotta go out there and see what they got going on.

SPEAKER_11

Chicago kind of southern too. I don't know how to explain it. They Midwest. Not southern, but like they're Midwest. But some of them do have an accent.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, they're not super north, though. She said north. They're not north. They're more south than north. Yeah, they're not super north.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, say that friend. What I said, I said what I said. Who agrees?

SPEAKER_02

You said what? They voice more south than north. I miss what y'all said though.

SPEAKER_11

That's okay, it's fine.

SPEAKER_06

Chicago more southern than north, bitch.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, but um, I did have a question. I know that you just went on um a tour with the baby where you did a headline for him or opened up for him. Um, how was it working with him? And I know you're doing a show with Tussy and Anne Marie. Yeah, you know, girl. I said I was going. Oh, we're going, we're going. We go with it. I love Anne Marie.

SPEAKER_08

Oh no, that shit was clutch though, because uh that shit was that shit was dope. Kyle chilling with him probably like two months ago, and we was just kicking him, me, him, and Fetty and shit, this little private shit. But he was fucking with me. Like, you know who I am. We chopped it up a little bit, and then he watched my performance, told me it was hard, woo-doo. But it's like, yeah, like, I mean, shit, that shit was cool. I'll fuck with him. You feel me? Hopefully, can do some shit in the future. Well, it is gonna happen. We already talked about it. It's just all about timing, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

It's definitely about timing, especially in this industry. So what what's what separates you? Cause it's like, yo, every fucking second, as we did this podcast, it was probably like 300 motherfuckers that said they want to rap. Right? So what separates you? Whoo these motherfuckers that wanna do music.

SPEAKER_08

Um shit. It's really on some shit like, um, I mean, I know people try to care compare me to Young and May, but Young Mate didn't come out like I came out. She came out on Up North shit with her bars and all that, and she fire. You feel me? She came on some cyper Kendrick Lamar type shit. I ain't come out on no shit like that. You feel me? I came out on my first feature with the hottest nigga in the game at the time. Like now, okay, yeah, nah. But at the time though, oh, the hottest nigga, like the hottest nigga. Like, you feel what I'm saying? And it's just like shit, you can't even name a female on what I'm on. You can't name a female in rap history. Like, you can name other females like Missy Elliott, design third. But you gotta think back then, they weren't really living in their truth. They was half and half in because the industry was so weird back then. But it's like me, I'm just me. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm me. Like I'm am who I am. I ain't labeled as nothing, no nothing. Like, you ain't find no female who get the respect from niggas. Like, I don't think people understand. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Every hood, every set, it don't matter. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm really locked in with like a lot of the people, like the real people in real life. You feel me? So it's just like you can't name a female like that. I ain't saying everybody respect me. You got some niggas who, oh, I don't fuck with her. She thinks she thinks she thinks she a nigga, but I ain't now a nigga gonna disrespect me. Ain't now a nigga ever disrespecting me. You get what I'm saying? So when it comes down to it, you can't name a female who really own what I'm on, or who get the type of like when I'm in them big rooms and shit, like, them niggas can't believe that shit. You feel what I'm saying? And that's just on some shit like I'm humble about it. I don't care nothing about this material. It's this shit just for the image. And that when I walk in the room, I ain't even gotta introduce myself. When I introduce myself, they give me the undivided attention, you feel me? It's just really just a tactic, you feel me? When you go to somebody you don't look like nothing, they're like, oh, who is she? But if you just skip all the bullshit and you look like some, you don't really gotta say too much. They're gonna start talking to you first. Trust me. Who are you? You feel me? So, yeah.

SPEAKER_11

So if your music disappeared tomorrow, what would you want people to remember you about?

SPEAKER_08

Getting money ass female who can rap. For real.

SPEAKER_02

And get hella bitches. And get hella bitch.

SPEAKER_11

I believe it. And I get hella bitches.

SPEAKER_02

I ain't gonna front. Like these two right here, they love you.

SPEAKER_11

Shut the hollow.

SPEAKER_12

Let me tell you, like, listen. Let me spice some shit up for a little bit of it. Let me spice some shit up in a little flight.

SPEAKER_02

You know, we all in a group chat, like, yo, we can go ooh.

SPEAKER_09

I'm like, like they was like damn salad.

SPEAKER_12

So yo, you remember that. I don't know this.

Collabs Touring And What Sets Her Apart

SPEAKER_11

You're taking up too much time on this, but I'm gonna go too much time. Shut the fuck up. I want to say something. So, anyway, I want to say something. I wanna get back on track, y'all. This is about alignment, and I'm really big on alignment and manifesting and all that good shit. So back in September, I was at a birthday party for my best friend and it was at Foumet. And we go in the bathroom. You know, girls are always linking up in the bathroom, they'd be meeting people and be like, oh my god, you so really. You know, everybody you got each other's Instagrams and stuff like that. Mind you, this was back in September. I've never really been on your page or anything, so I started seeing you in the algorithm about two months ago, and that's when I started reaching out. But I wasn't even a part of the podcast back in September for you to be like, yo, I rap, follow me, da da da. So it was that meeting that had been. Yeah, yeah, facts, facts, facts. Yes, you're very beautiful, handsome.

SPEAKER_12

Say some poetic shit.

SPEAKER_10

Like, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_12

Like, yeah, I know you would have just been a little bit more.

SPEAKER_08

I love the females, man.

SPEAKER_11

And you have a very malefluous voice. Keep it professional.

SPEAKER_06

I got a good I got a good voice. What you say? What you say? Hit it with the big word. Hit it with the big word. What type of voice you say here?

SPEAKER_11

I ain't very malefluous. Oh, we're saying she likes to tell me y'all crazy. Y'all gonna give me a hella trouble, brother. Anyway, hey, yo.

SPEAKER_07

Hey, yo. So, who are your top three females and top three male artists?

SPEAKER_08

Oh, I like Glorilla.

SPEAKER_09

I like that question. I like that question.

SPEAKER_08

I like Glorilla, Kelani, Glorillani. And Jamie Sullivan. Okay, Jimmy. Okay, okay, Jazz. That was fun. Okay. Males, Kevin Gates. Oh, Kevin Gates. She's like an ass in.

SPEAKER_11

That's because she's there. She likes an ass in it. Oh yeah, Kevin Gates. She's an Aquarius, y'all. Kevin Gates. Let me get back to his um. She don't let nobody split in her mouth.

SPEAKER_02

Lil' Baby. Lil' Okay.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, I did see that. I did see that, Lil' Baby.

SPEAKER_02

Uh, wife and Lucci. Okay, wife and Lucci.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, Luci.

SPEAKER_02

There were three artists that you could put together, male, female, anybody, you could dig up the grave, whatever. Three artists that you will put together to make your perfect artists. Who would those three artists be? Your perfect artists. Three like builder bear. Three, yeah, like a builder bear, but it's three artists that you can pick and make your perfect artist. Who would those three artists be? You can mix it together. It could be whoever you want to be. Artists.

SPEAKER_08

Probably like Kevin Gates. Kevin Gates, okay. Um, damn. Oh she did. Oh, oh, damn. I think they ain't got no favorites, but maybe like Kevin Gates, Wife, and Lucci, and maybe like Glorilla.

SPEAKER_02

So Kevin Gates' wife and Luchie and Glorilla. How would that artist look though?

SPEAKER_08

The motherfuckers will be able to route, talk that real shit in scene. Oh. Oh man. Hey, man. I love Kevin Gary. That's fine. It's my nigga though. He hit me up. He hit me up not long ago. He's gonna spray your mouth.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, no, he's not. If I don't want to go, he's crazy. How he gonna do what I don't want?

SPEAKER_08

Kevin Gates told me I was a real nigga.

SPEAKER_11

If you guys don't have any other questions, I want to ask you one question. The question that we asked Miss Jones last week. Oh shit. Make sure you say it's your research button. All right. So this is for research purposes.

SPEAKER_09

Niggas close your ears, niggas. Yeah I'm like, hey, I missed it last week. What we talking about.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, yeah, yeah. I know that you're a real nigga. We get you. I love it. You're a real nigga. By the end of the day, you are a lady. And I want to know if you're a squirter or a creamer.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, out of pocket. Hey, out of pocket.

SPEAKER_08

Oh. I mean, I like to say I'm the one that be making. I'm personally saying I'm the one to be making them do what you say. You know what I'm saying? This shit gets it going. Um, definitely not touch me not. I don't have your. But I'm also like definitely in control, but I'm not a touch me not. Okay. And never gonna touch me not. But just know. But just know and about two to five minutes, max. You feel me?

SPEAKER_09

My between. Y'all heard it. Y'all heard it. What it works. Two to five minutes. Waterworks.

SPEAKER_02

If you wasn't heavy, if you wasn't a real nigga, like in music, what would you be doing if you wasn't doing music at all?

SPEAKER_08

Uh I mean, I do real estate. Like I own, I do I fix and flip. So like I invest in cribs, I do shit like that. Like shit like that. I got a lot of little side quests. So if I wasn't I was you gotta understand, I just started doing music like three and a half years ago. And like when I first started for the first year, I really wasn't making a lot. But then like 2024, I really started. So before doing music, I had a car dealership, I had box trucks. Oh shit. Yeah, all that shit. You feel what I'm saying? So like I've been doing I just started rapping because my cousin when we started rapping because rappers started thinking I was rapping. That's when I started rapping. I didn't really need to rap if anything shit rap took a lot. Rap took money from me shit before I started rapping. I was just making my little money my business. This rap shit is pissed. At first I just started doing it because my cousin damn it forced me. And so like at first I was just like, alright, cool. So for the first year, it was like, alright, cool. Ooh, first year and a half. I mean, I was I was doing it. I put my money in it. I'm putting my all into it, but you know, it took a minute to like, it's just like if you date somebody, like, it took a minute to really like fall all the way in type shit. You feel me? Like, I say I probably like fell all the way in, probably like in the middle of like 2024 type shit. You feel me? Like I really like started locking in. Then like last year, I felt myself like now I'm just like a whole different person now. You feel me? Cause they kept telling me like it's gonna be a minute where something's gonna click for you, everything's gonna change. Like and I feel that so it's like now like I don't really like it. You feel me?

SPEAKER_02

Like for the industry, like do you feel like right now? Because I mean it's a lot of gimmicks right now, like that very little fucking trash. Do you feel like the industry now is more geared towards clout? Or is it like that?

SPEAKER_08

Nah, it's actually getting back to that real shit though, low keto. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel. You see a lot of older rappers and older artists coming back through. It's getting back to like what really sounds good, more so over just these fucking shit.

SPEAKER_09

I see you working with Taliban. Yeah, how how how is that working for him? Because I see y'all on fire right now. Y'all going crazy right now.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that's a little bro. That's a little bro. Yeah, we started we started working together off of like um he hit me up when Sas Walker was in town. He's the reason why I even got uh why I even just did the song with him, like I ain't even know him. And from there we just click, like that's a little bro for sure. Like we same similar mindsets, we got cool sound, we got an EP coming out. Like we really just pushing the same shit. So me and pushing that shit together, like you feel me. So like yeah, like we started that shit and that shit going, you feel me? So it's more to come, you feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_09

Tell him that. Yeah, I had told him.

SPEAKER_08

Everybody got their shit going on, but I can definitely I can definitely connect it easy, yeah. I told him to pull up, but everybody like busy, like shit going on. Cause when she was trying to schedule me, I'm like, damn, this shit's so hard. She just be popping up. You feel me?

SPEAKER_03

So tell them what I can find you at.

SPEAKER_08

Uh Jazz Close J S S C L U T C H that's on like everything for her. That's everything. Appreciate y'all having me. Yes. Hey, listen.

SPEAKER_02

You gonna stay in there for Power and Ball? This is this is the video next music video. I wanna be in it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, we gotta be in it. Wait, what you had?

SPEAKER_02

You had some punch?

SPEAKER_08

A little bit of lunar.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you gotta show drive. Tesla. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Sometimes I really be thinking what year you're living in, though.

SPEAKER_08

I really just start using it. I didn't have it for like a year and a half. I just started using it. I'm like, damn, this shit is cool.

SPEAKER_02

Now that touching shit is fire. I pay attention fire.

SPEAKER_11

I never pushed the door.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna just let it do it and just be they don't even let you just do it and don't pay attention. You still gotta pay attention like the drive, okay? You can't just be like they come in phone. Oh no, they know they got like cameras in that bitch.

SPEAKER_02

They gonna be like alert backing drive, look on the road. Look on the road, what the fuck you doing? But my bodyguards sleep on that motherfucker for like 30 minutes. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_08

It was self-driving. That nigga didn't wake up for 30 minutes. So that's why he said he had to get alerted. You feel me? He said like this so to the computer, he was up. Alright, let's get ready for pot and balls.

Pot And Boss Freestyles And Cypher Energy

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy. Fucking test is crazy. Yeah. Okay, pot and boss.

SPEAKER_09

My vocals, right? Yeah. Turn me up a little bit. Don't turn the beat louder than me, but turn me up a little bit. Alright, okay. Whole thing, half a plate, QP28. Still serving 0.5 grams, apes and some quakes. Spend your last on your re-up. I get mines on the face. Trapping like Taliban, fuck up a back, but it's okay. Damn near the end of the day. I'm still high from the wake and bake. Tryna shop, I'm on the way. One of front, then you can wait. My bait come from the bait and my pack come from LA. Talk facts like Big Bang. Doing bad with smoking spray. From the strain, smelling strange. I think it's THCA. Using China bust, move weight. Don't wanna deal with TSA. Cost to be the boss, you gotta pay the play. Trapping aid dead, niggas just afraid. I'm smoking push, bitch, pain. To sticky fist inside my blunt. You know this pack punch. Bad bitch said she gon' give me pussy. She heard I was interview with Jazz Clutch. Appreciate it, gang, I'ma see you her page. Brooklyn made came up from the era of sour diesel and haze. Got the method like Johnny Blaze. More chronic than Dr. Drake. Coming on the freight, man. I hope that shit don't sneak. I'm in traffic, moving safe. See, build license straight. No smoking, making plays. Don't give them a reason to read this place. Gotta learn from mistakes, learn people, learn life. Patch this touchdown. That right there, new merchandise. Plug said I've been loyal, I deserve his place. Oh, you gotta lower ticket that's got it break. My clientele, it ain't they business, my price still the same. Been putting up for my daughter since the day my D employee up here. It was late. In your area, I'm serving thank. Ain't about bread, we can't link. Pussy ass nigga, stay on my face, pot of my bitch.

unknown

Hey, gonna start up.

SPEAKER_02

We got you, Stony.

SPEAKER_07

Hold on, stall my tongue, watch your watch a ton. Look. Okay, look. I hopped in that V and I skirt off. Had to tap a hat off by myself, these niggas soft. Even if you had the cost, you can pay the balls. It be bitches in my mouth before I even get the fluff. Trying not to pop it, I can't even stop it. Only time I'm waiting if it's guaranteed a pocket. But bitch ain't got no pockets. Hold on, shortage in the plug. I had to rip it out the cycle. I can't even play with it. Bitches know I stay with it. I don't give a fuck how good it. Can I lay it? Every time I hit your block, sprayin' it. Up the blick, not aiming it. Somebody gotta pay for this. I was on that band for it. Yeah, they thought they tang the bitch. They cut that band. I bet shit got dangerous. Tellin everything like that bitch got paid snitch. Perk tin on me, you know that my dick watch.

SPEAKER_08

I'ma rap with my bowl up. It's like a freestyle idea one time. Damn, I ain't know that was it right now. My bad. She missed the drop. But I be doing it in the studio all the time too. Oh yeah, baby. Alright, it's about to drop now. Yeah. It's about to drop now. Hey, hey, still independent. Nigga tryna reach the meal. If I gotta sell my soul, I ain't tryna sign no deal. Bro, very well pity niggas. But they gonna say I keep it real. Cause I'm up, I don't need it. Like I ain't got no bills, ain't nobody loan the dime. I got it straight up out of the mud. I would catch and plays in college trappers, honey with it dug. So I always hit a plug. With a tight and copin, double up, so they always drop the love. In the middle of the trap, niggas tryna catch a play. Three phones, trap jumpin', clock tail everyway. I don't fall with niggas, no you cannot pull up or I stay. Was a Carolina money, but I'm right back in the bank. Up in that mode, I ain't leaving two and slow. Goin' hard for nine days. I ain't worried about no bulls. Target T and easy slides. I trappin' fashion with the bow. Hey, we say, we say, for the love be fate, and the hate being real. How many niggas gotta die before we stop poppin' pills? Hey, I'm done.

SPEAKER_05

B little baby, we outside Hit the place till the woods fall off. Head is talking like he will fall off. It's a hot summer, yeah. I better get the ice game up or keep it cute, keep your ice be stuck. I do the rich away the ice cream tuck. Tell the truth, I got my ice beat stuck. You got a mad, beat your wife be up. Now you like the fire cases, man. I girl summer out here, just feel like she makin' me. Living wrong with ballers, wipe a nigga nose, go have fun, baby. We hardly And then we pull off, then the coolest, you can hit it highest when it's flipping. And the roll got me high like faces when they take off. But tone got me faded, still in my rip jeans. When I'm on forever, maybe they gon' miss me. Meanwhile, I just run it up to my feet, hurt. I love them behaving out when they got us. Nickers design us. Whoever is lit, that's where you find us. Rockin' all these diamonds it shows, somebody sign us. If not, I'm keeping it independent. It's post the frame a logo, all on the pendant. Loyal on speed out, seal a home, re doubt. J they on Facebook calling me niggas see that when I still got the two pills. Black selling we still gather toin focus, that's a good deal. Staying home, still getting that ticket, mustin' my L. But my nigga still wanna free my vest cut lyrics. Lil' girl, stay locked up, the ops stole the same, he go crazy, raise that clock up. Got so violent, little crackers still hatin' B-Mac doing his best. Well, that's the situation, yeah. I ain't done yet, hold on. Where off my car to yeah, let's get high here. Niggas talking dope on my name, they need to stop it. 20 bids on loyalty, niggas came out of pocket. Yellin out green lights, okay. You better watch it. Yellow lights, bro that I'll get food in his pocket. Red light on his drip, roll hesitate to stop it. All-star weekend, B lo put up with 10 pants. Livin' like a rapper. Only thing I ain't got no fence. Flames in this booth, A Goo, cut on the standard I like this style.

SPEAKER_01

I got it too.

SPEAKER_02

I got it.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Big dude. Lucky Lou. I said the game fucked up so much. Should it aggravate? Think y'all got infatuation with mediocre saturation. Far cycle, acclimation, ass captivate. Watch a machine flow, no spin, just agitate your back can't flow. Pen and paper till it's activated. Everything I fix, hurting nerves be exacerbated. Know I'm a problem, ain't no solving or a calculator. Only thing is adding up, multiplying back, and make the rhymes off the wall, that's mad at the imagination. Every two theme, David, copper feel. No exaggeration, no hyperbole. I be clicking like a detonation. Everything I do, but the kid keep testing me. Rise to the top. Overflow keep escalating. Hate a talk, but I trust my thoughts and stop the speculation. Critics mad cause I exceed over the expectation. Happens when you like this term and think underestimate. Mad Wappers, copycat scenes with prop competition. Boots and boss talk heavy growing out sophisticated. Motivation buzz, spin around, call it oscillation. Fast dance rap is getting clean. Find new occupation. Enemies don't be the same. We need to fix the fix to late. Yeah, one more. Uh-huh. I ain't done yet.

SPEAKER_06

I ain't done yet.

SPEAKER_01

It's more for you to flip. I said bars in the pot. That's a pen with the dope rip. Pyrex competition. He couldn't make a shit. I'm ready any moment. Soon as I hit it, dice flip. From zero to a hundred. Like ropes after the lights. About to get ugliest trip keeper than night shift. Black mask gloves. Don't forget about the bike. Two belt bar feeler, walking with the night stick. If I ain't got the hulk on me, no, I got the knife flick. Scary movie clips. I disappear when the lights flip. They come back colder, the buckets filled with some ice ships. Ain't no preying on my downfall, hoping I might drip. The first through they tell you press inside your truth don't slip. Room full of wolves. Smoke you cowards off from long fists. Seats to the squared, we'll allow us to maintain this. The world full of actors, they just tryna get rich quick. Everybody tryna shoot their shot, but it ain't switch.

SPEAKER_12

Everybody tryna shoot this shot, but it ain't switch.

Final Shoutouts And Close

SPEAKER_02

Uh-huh. So listen, man. Mobile podcast, shot his name dangerous to five time award winning podcast in Charlotte. Let's give a lot of applause for boys for Jazz Clark's name. Yes. Thank you for coming through, man, and Grace and the mic. You know, very great interview, man.

SPEAKER_11

I know y'all know now.

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